O's view Atkins as a cleanup hitter!?

[DrungoHazewood]

I think this is way overblown. If Atkins hits as poorly as he did last year, he obviously won't stay clean-up for long. But if he returns to the level of a few years ago. he'd be great. We need a RH bat in the 4th spot, so why not at least consider him and give him a chance?

If you're going to continue to consider the details and nuances of reality it's going to be much harder to file people only under the headings of Traitor and Messiah.

[Tank]

That's a condition.

Oh good grief, that's another one. Now you're saying it's off if one of them catches the measles or gets locked up on a DUI.

What are you gonna want to add next?

What happens if one of them forgets to set the alarm and oversleeps, is it off then too?

Howsabout if his pet cat dies and the guy is too upset to play? What then?

Or maybe his great uncle dies and he has to go to the funeral?

What happens if DT's dog eats the lineup card? Is it off then too?

Look, this is not hard. I meant exactly what I said to begin with.

I haven't been changing my story with every post. Here's what I said:

Don't keep trying to change it with every post. It's always best to keep these things simple.

Look, we both know that both of them are almost certain to be in the OD lineup, so this is just fringy BS.

Are you gonna have all manner of do's and don't's about what happens if they're not?

Or every possible reason for not being in the lineup just the same as every other one?

Is a broken leg just like getting kidnapped by space aliens, or are they different?

Holy cow you're annoying.

Anyway, I highly doubt Atkins bats 4th. I think Roch is just speculating since DT said he wanted a power hitting right handed hitter to bat cleanup and he thinks this is that guy. I really doubt (hope) that AM and DT think the same.

[Orioles West]

How about waiting until Trembley actually sets a lineup in the regular season and we see what happens for a while before you start throwing out gratuitous insults. Jeez, its December and you're already calling a guy a monkey for a lineup that may never happen. Even if it does happen, give DT some slack. He hasn't seen a lot of Atkins, let him do what he wants in February and March and make some decisions when the year starts.

Well said. And again, as someone who has watched Atkins' entire career develop here in Colorado, IF (and it is a sizable IF) he regains any part of his form from two years ago, he will excel in the fourth spot. Should his decline continue, back to 6 or 7 or the bench if he goes under .250 again.

Spring training will likely help determine his swing status and the line-up. I highly doubt DT has set ANYthing in stone just yet, especially since the roster isn't even finished.

I read a small interview in the Denver Post today and he seems very excited about trying to show the Orioles, and the world, he can still hit.

-Don

[btdart20]

Here's how I'd line them up:

Roberts

Markakis

Jones

Weiters

Reimold

Atkins

Scott/Wigginton

Itzuris

Pie

And once Bell or Snyder is ready, Atkins adjusts accordingly. And then Bell/Snyder gets the Scott/Wigginton slot.

[RShack]

Its very simple...Assuming both players are in the OD lineup and not hurt or whatever, 500 says Nick is batting third and Wieters 5th or 6th..Are you doing the bet or not? Simple yes or no...Not your normal bs war and peace answer that no one cares about.

Well, lets see... Since the attempted conditions for calling it off went from "DT might change his mind" and "AM might make a trade" and have been reduced down to a set of very unlikely "whatevers", sure, let's do it.

[Sports Guy]

Well, lets see... Since the attempted conditions for calling it off went from "DT might change his mind" and "AM might make a trade" and have been reduced down to a set of very unlikely "whatevers", sure, let's do it.

Let me ask you this...If these guys are hurt and not in the OD lineup, how are we supposed to know who gets paid? We don't.

So, assuming they play, Nick batting 3rd, Wieters 5th or 6th...$500 american dollar bet?

Yes or no?

[RShack]

Let me ask you this...If these guys are hurt and not in the OD lineup, how are we supposed to know who gets paid? We don't.

So, assuming they play, Nick batting 3rd, Wieters 5th or 6th...$500 american dollar bet?

Yes or no?

In my previous post, I said "sure"...

For people who speak American, that translates into "yes" ;-)

[byrdz]

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[Mike B]

This is WAY over the line. Why the hell are you badmouthing Trembley like this? He's not even mentioned by Roch.

It fits his agenda...this is Roch's view.....and if you take out 2009, many on this board would have been excited at the prospect of getting Atkins as a middle of the order guy.

[Moose Milligan]

....and if you take out 2009, many on this board would have been excited at the prospect of getting Atkins as a middle of the order guy.

Oh not even close.

His numbers have been slipping across the board since his big season. 29, 25, 21 homers. On base from .409-.328. Slugging down from .556-.452.