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Ruzious Hangout Grand Counsel

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My favorite part of that video is Nick Swisher's reaction to Tillman's stuff :laughlol:

Yes, that's some good mike work. :eektf: I liked Posada's reaction - "I'm a Yankee dammit! Those aren't strikes against us! Do I look like an Oriole?"

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I would imagine that Danny Cabrera had a plus fast ball, but that didn't stop him from having control issues that derailed his progress.

Ok i could not let these words go by. Did Danield Cabrera ever Sniff anywhere near what Tillman is as a prospect. In fact im pretty sure he was never in BA's top 100. Daniel Cabrera Threw for 89 walks with 76 strikeouts in 147 innings his rookie year. Tillman threw for 24 walks and 39 K's in 65 innings. Oh yeah Cabrera was more than 2 years older too but i guess that does not matter to you. Strictly a 1 pitch pitcher. I would say Tillman's change is advanced if not farther along than Cabrera's slider

Matusz has three fringe plus pitches right now and Tillman has two so what is it that people see in Tillman to think he is more impressive than Matusz at this point?

And im pretty sure there is a bunch of Hall of Fame 2 pitch pitchers... Nolan Ryan, Curt Schilling, and Roger Clemens have got away with it.

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I am happy to have Tillman, but how does being 22 with great stuff differ from being 24-25 with great stuff? Both guys have great stuff and both guys are under team control for 6 years. When I look at those top 50 lists I always laugh because so many of those guys that are the next big thing tend to miss. Some contribute as average players and others are outright busts. I think Tillman is a #3 pitcher in the future with #2 starter upside and I do not know why that is such a bad outlook for any prospect, especially one that pitches in the AL East.

Let me ask you all this question. What pitching prospects would you pick before Tillman if you had to select a minor league pitcher. I can't think of too many, less than 10 for sure. Brian Matusz would be one guy I would pick a head of Tillman and that says a lot about the tandum those two could make.

At this point in time I cannot argue that most would take Matusz over Tillman if a choice had to be made. However, long term I would take Tillman. I think he has the potential to be really special, even ace-like. I would love to see Jim Palmer work with him. He reminds me a bit of Palmer when Jim first came up.

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At this point in time I cannot argue that most would take Matusz over Tillman if a choice had to be made. However, long term I would take Tillman. I think he has the potential to be really special, even ace-like. I would love to see Jim Palmer work with him. He reminds me a bit of Palmer when Jim first came up.

Luckily we do not have to choose. We have them both! :D

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