Vasquez for ACC POY

[sportsfan8703]

What would Greivis have to do to win the award? I think the terps would have to finish in at least a tie for first place and would have to beat duke along the way. Why is Scheyer getting so much hype for national player of the year and Vasquez doesn't? Vasquez ACC numbers 21.5/4.5/6.4. Scheyer ACC numbers 18.8/3/4.5. And even though Vasquez goes to the rim more, Scheyer has 152 Ft attempts to Vasquez's 113. I think for Greivis to win the award UMD would have to win out.

[Tony-OH]

What would Greivis have to do to win the award? I think the terps would have to finish in at least a tie for first place and would have to beat duke along the way. Why is Scheyer getting so much hype for national player of the year and Vasquez doesn't? Vasquez ACC numbers 21.5/4.5/6.4. Scheyer ACC numbers 18.8/3/4.5. And even though Vasquez goes to the rim more, Scheyer has 152 Ft attempts to Vasquez's 113. I think for Greivis to win the award UMD would have to win out.

Hope that the Tobacco Road voters suddenly all give up the right to vote.

[YardBirds13]

If the Terps beat Duke and Vasquez keeps playing the way he has this past week, I think he wins it.

[ChuckS]

Other than maybe Delaney from VTech it has to be between Scheyer and Vasquez. They will have to consider who each player has around them. Scheyer has a better supporting cast with Nolan Smith and Kyle Singler. From what I have heard from the National Media I think Vasquez is actually slightly ahead of Scheyer right now. I don't think we need to finish first in the conference, but I think a win over Duke at home and an 11-5 or 12-4 finish would seal it for Greivis. I'd be disappointed with any less than 11-5 at this point. Only games we won't be favored in the rest of the way are going to be at home vs. Duke (possible pick em) and at Virginia Tech. Milbourne could sneak onto the third team, but I see him most likely being an honorable mention.

[Sports Guy]

Its very wide open...Singler is playing great right now and since he was the preseason POY, if he ends the year on a role, he will probably win it.

Right now, I think it should be Vazquez...He means more to the Terps than maybe any player means to his team in the country...and he is playing at a high level.

[Jules]

Hope that the Tobacco Road voters suddenly all give up the right to vote.

I agree. If Duke wins the ACC then Scheyer will probably take the award. GV has had a great year but still has those mental lapses where he is to aggressive and gives the ball away. That's going to hurt them in the tournament if he want to show off.

Here's a link to ACC stats:

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2009-2010/confldrs.html#conf.wki

[Tony-OH]

I agree. If Duke wins the ACC then Scheyer will probably take the award. GV has had a great year but still has those mental lapses where he is to aggressive and gives the ball away. That's going to hurt them in the tournament if he want to show off.

Here's a link to ACC stats:

http://www.theacc.com/sports/m-baskbl/stats/2009-2010/confldrs.html#conf.wki

I think Vasquez should win it regardless, but I also know how the Tobacco Road voters tend to stick with their own down there.

Scheyer averages four minutes more per game than Vasquez yet Vasquez is beating him in most categories.

BTW, in case anyone was wondering, there is no doubt in my mind that Vasquez's jersey goes up in the rafters after the season. He's become that "go-to" guy this season and now that he's red hot, he's carrying the team.

He just needs to keep it up through the ACC to cement his legacy.

[Sports Guy]

I think Vasquez should win it regardless, but I also know how the Tobacco Road voters tend to stick with their own down there.

Scheyer averages four minutes more per game than Vasquez yet Vasquez is beating him in most categories.

BTW, in case anyone was wondering, there is no doubt in my mind that Vasquez's jersey goes up in the rafters after the season. He's become that "go-to" guy this season and now that he's red hot, he's carrying the team.

He just needs to keep it up through the ACC to cement his legacy.

Well, Greivis is also asked to do a lot more and MD hasn't had the schedule Duke has had either.

[Satyr3206]

Personally I think any POY or MVP should be decided at least partially by how much their team would be hurt if they weren't there. Duke would still be a top 25 team. Maryland MIGHT be going to the NIT.

[Mackus]

Scheyer averages four minutes more per game than Vasquez yet Vasquez is beating him in most categories.

I'm in full support of Vasquez' candidacy for ACC POY, but I would think that playing more is a testament to a player, not a reason to knock them. When it comes to POY type voting, I don't care about per-minute stats, I can about what a guy is able to do to help his team win, and if a guy that can play more minutes at peak level then he is helping his team more.

I have no doubt that Vasquez could average 35+ mpg and handle it physically, its just that we haven't needed him at times.

[ccbird]

As someone who has been very critical of Greivis at times and in general believes he has been overrated by most Maryland fans in recent years, I believe he is the leading candidate right now. He has been outstanding in ACC play and has had a much more efficient year. His A/T, FG % and 3pt% are all at career highs after a very slow start to the season. Most importantly, it's translating to victories. He has certainly been the most valuable player to his team in the league this year.

[sportsfan8703]

His slow start had nothing to do with him struggling. He was trying to get his teammates scoring early in the season like Williams and Hayes because we needed them to get confidence. We were playing bum teams and we didn't need him to score 20 a game. Now that we are playing better competition he has been dominant and he single handedly won us the NC St. game.

One edge you have to give Scheyer is that he is better defensively. :rofl:I mean he can hand check you to midcourt so you can never get into your offense. Best on the ball defender in the nation. At least until he gets into the tourney and loses to VCU.

[ccbird]

His slow start had nothing to do with him struggling. He was trying to get his teammates scoring early in the season like Williams and Hayes because we needed them to get confidence. We were playing bum teams and we didn't need him to score 20 a game. Now that we are playing better competition he has been dominant and he single handedly won us the NC St. game.

One edge you have to give Scheyer is that he is better defensively. :rofl:I mean he can hand check you to midcourt so you can never get into your offense. Best on the ball defender in the nation. At least until he gets into the tourney and loses to VCU.

He was absolutely struggling to start the year. Here are his numbers through the first 12 games.

FG: 68/166 .409%

3PT: 19/58 .327%

PPS: 1.21

A/TO: 1.9

Here are his numbers in the 13 games since. Keep in mind 11 of these games have been ACC games.

FG: 96/200 .480%

3PT: 32/69 .463%

PPS:1.35

A/T: 1.8

Now granted, the number he has put up in the last 13 games have extremely good but at the same time the numbers he put up in the first 12 games, against worse competetion, are pretty bad.

[grady41]

5 more points and GV becomes the first player in ACC history with 2000points, 700 assists and 600 rebounds. Does this help him become player of the year? Probably not, the NC media is biased towards the Dukes and Carolinas.

[BaltimoreTerp]

He was absolutely struggling to start the year. Here are his numbers through the first 12 games.

FG: 68/166 .409%

3PT: 19/58 .327%

PPS: 1.21

A/TO: 1.9

Here are his numbers in the 13 games since. Keep in mind 11 of these games have been ACC games.

FG: 96/200 .480%

3PT: 32/69 .463%

PPS:1.35

A/T: 1.8

Now granted, the number he has put up in the last 13 games have extremely good but at the same time the numbers he put up in the first 12 games, against worse competetion, are pretty bad.

Just means he rises to the occasion.