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I don't blame MGon, I do blame Trembley


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If we're going to blame Trembley in part for not forcing Gonzalez to take a rehab assignment and work out his issues, then we also need to put some of that responsibility on AM. While I agree that IF Gonzalez's injury wasn't fully healed and IF his command was consistently horrible both in and out of games this spring, then it might have made sense to put him in the minors and let him work these things out before bringing back to the O's.

But Trembley doesn't work in a vacuum - Kranitz, the other coaches and the front office all contribute to these decisions. So does the player in question.

In retrospect, it looks like it would have been a good idea for Gonzalez to take a rehab stint. If that's true, then its the whole organization's fault he wasn't sent out for one - not just Trembley's fault.

The buck stops with the manager. Everyone saw Gonzalez in spring training and thought he wasn't right. Trembley's job is to get whatever input he can from Kranitz, the catchers, and anyone else, and then make a decision. He decided to ignore the concerns and start the season with Gonzalez as his closer, and then ignore the first poor effort and blown save and use him again, then ignore the second poor effort and us him again less than 24 hours later. Whether the CIA provides good intelligence or not, the President is responsible for the decisions he makes, and so is the manager.

Roch Kubatko:

Gonzalez fumed in spring training when questions turned to his health. His velocity was down. I watched an early bullpen session and wrote that he wasn't popping the catcher's mitt. I hadn't seen him throw in the past and didn't know whether this was the norm.

If my first impressions of Gonzalez came in the regular season, I might feel a little differently about him. Blown saves happen. He's just slow out of the gate. But I've spent seven weeks with him, and like everyone else, I've been waiting for him to turn it up.

Peter Schmuck:

It's fair to wonder why the Orioles didn't see this coming. Gonzalez never seemed to settle into the spring bullpen rotation but insisted throughout training camp that his arm was fine. He did acknowledge a minor back issue, but that really didn't explain why his fastball lacked its normal zip and left visiting scouts convinced he was pitching hurt.
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And can we please stop with the 30 pitches the night before argument? Really, come on. 30 pitches isn't a lot and it shouldn't render a pitcher useless for the next game. But thats another rant for another time...

But the problem with it is not only the 30 pitches, but the warming up as well. He's pitched Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday. And they weren't easy outings. A ton of pitches including warming up in the bullpen. Also remember that this guy is still healing.

Jim Johnson threw 9 pitches in the 8th, and blew by guys. The 9th inning had the bottom of the lineup. Trembley needs to learn how to use the bullpen properly or we'll run into an overused bullpen quick...especially with 16 straight games to start the season.

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I never said anything about prior performance of past relievers dictating the performance of Gonzo.

My point is that you don't piss away money on relievers when you are barely a 500ish level team.

The money could have been put to better use.

I am not opposed to signing relievers but i would be looking for bargains, like a guy like Calero.

Again, Sherrill was a journeyman reliever who had no closing experience and he ended up being very solid for us...Why get rid of him and then turn around and spend a ton of money on a guy to do the same job? I just don't see how you can go with one and then justify the other.

If a truly top flight closer is out there and we are a contender, then I am much more willing to go after him.

As it is, I wouldn't have minded them signing Capps...Would have been much cheaper and probably put up similar numbers.

Because getting rid of him got us Josh Bell...

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Because getting rid of him got us Josh Bell...

And Johnson. The Sherrill trade looks brilliant in hindsight. I can't imagine how anyone could argue that Gonzalez + Bell + Johnson isn't an order of magnitude better than just Sherrill after watching Gonzalez pitch just a handful of times.

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And Johnson. The Sherrill trade looks brilliant in hindsight. I can't imagine how anyone could argue that Gonzalez + Bell + Johnson isn't an order of magnitude better than just Sherrill.

Exactly. And that's why he'll keep Gonzo in the closer's role...because AM probably would deal him for a similar package assuming he returns to form. Gonzo will have to dreadful for a looong time before he loses that job IMO...and I don't know that it will be DT's call to make the change.

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Hallelujah:

As for struggling closer Michael Gonzalez, he has pitched on consecutive days and probably wouldn't have been available tonight anyway. But Trembley said he'll definitely be held out of tonight's game and he'll spend significant time before the game working on his mechanics with pitching coach Rick Kranitz. Trembley wouldn't commit to how many days he wants Gonzalez to work with Kranitz before he resumes using him in the ninth inning.

Kranitz and Trembley watched extensive video of Gonzalez last year and noticed several differences in what he has done this season, including the extent to which the left-hander is falling off the mound.

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