Is Miggi The Only TRUE Star and CLUTCH Hitter On This Team?

[Old#5fan]

Poll to follow:

[waroriole]

As usual, your responses don't capture any of the normal sentiments and smell of agenda.

[waroriole]

He's certainly no Michael Young.:laughlol:

[Sports Guy]

I love the first option of this poll....Freaking hysterical.

[DrungoHazewood]

I can't truthfully answer any poll that doesn't include an alien zombie apocalypse option.

[SammyBirdland]

Poll to follow:

Did Markakis steal your girlfriend or kick sand in your face at the beach or something?

[Old#5fan]

I love the first option of this poll....Freaking hysterical.

What is so funny. Miggi is the ONLY ORIOLE so far this season to win a game singlehandedly with his bat. I REPEAT the ONLY ORIOLE.

[Old#5fan]

Did Markakis steal your girlfriend or kick sand in your face at the beach or something?

No, but I get tired of watching the guy repeatedly choke in game winning situations and get excuse after excuse after excuse as if it is NEVER his fault. It's always there is nobody hitting behind him, he isn't getting pitches to hit, blah, blah, blah, and it is nothing but balderdash. If the game was on the line I would take the following Orioles anyday over Markakis if I could pick who should hit in the botttom of the 9th in a tie game:

Tejada,

Wieters,

Wigginton,

Jones

So that ain't saying much for Markakis and his ability to be a clutch hitter now is it?

[trk001]

There is no Clutch stat, but there are stats for what could be considered clutch situations. So, in the interests of seeing further argument, because it's been a slow day for me, take from these what you will. What I see is a guy who's generally a .290 - .310 avg hitter in situations where you definitely want to see him get a hit. Whether that's clutch or not I guess will depend on everyone's personal opinion.

Career stats.

AVG / OBP / SLG

RISP: .292 .380 .487

Men On: .303 .379 .492

Runner on 2: .303 .420 .487

Runner on 3: .306 .394 .459

Runner on 1,2: .253 .310 .481

Runner on 1,3: .408 .429 .653 :eektf: (

Runner on 2,3: .296 .421 .500

Bases Loaded: .230 .275 .393

2 out, RISP: .254 .360 .446

Late & Close: .311 .388 .470

Tie Game: .321 .388 .479

Within 1 Run: .309 .377 .477

Behind: .297 .358 .472

This took way to long to type out in the first place, so I'll just say that Miguel Tejada's number are very similar (Nick's are marginally higher, so nyah) and I don't think there's a huge difference between the two. You can find the numbers under Career Splits at baseballreference.com. Generic sample size warning goes here, these are generally in the 50-200 PA range.

[Old#5fan]

There is no Clutch stat, but there are stats for what could be considered clutch situations. So, in the interests of seeing further argument, because it's been a slow day for me, take from these what you will. What I see is a guy who's generally a .290 - .310 avg hitter in situations where you definitely want to see him get a hit. Whether that's clutch or not I guess will depend on everyone's personal opinion.

Career stats.

AVG / OBP / SLG

RISP: .292 .380 .487

Men On: .303 .379 .492

Runner on 2: .303 .420 .487

Runner on 3: .306 .394 .459

Runner on 1,2: .253 .310 .481

Runner on 1,3: .408 .429 .653 :eektf:

Runner on 2,3: .296 .421 .500

Bases Loaded: .230 .275 .393

2 out, RISP: .254 .360 .446

Late & Close: .311 .388 .470

Tie Game: .321 .388 .479

Within 1 Run: .309 .377 .477

Behind: .297 .358 .472

This took way to long to type out in the first place, so I'll just say that Miguel Tejada's number are very similar and I don't think there's a huge difference between the two. You can find the numbers under Career Splits at baseballreference.com.

Maybe so but how many games over the past two season can you recall where Markakis did what Miggi did last nite (had two huge game saving and winning Close and Late hits) and ended with a walk off win? I cannot remember any time whatsover Markakis has had a game even close to this with ONE big game winning walkoff hit over the past two season and nearly 200 games!

[trk001]

Maybe so but how many games over the past two season can you recall where Markakis did what Miggi did last nite (had two huge game saving and winning Close and Late hits) and ended with a walk off win?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

In a similar vein: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truthiness

[AlbNYfan]

Anyone that puts clutch and Markakis in the same sentence is way off base. He is a solid performer, was the only "star" on the roster for quite a while and deserves respect, but not clutch. Miggy just looks more comfortable at the plate than Markakis. I won't walk, I will hit the ball. Miggy hit the HR, when the O's needed it last night. I think he knew with 2 outs it was up to him. In the tenth, the pitch Miggy hit was a ball, but he knew he could place it and get a single. A similar pitch for Markakis, he would have taken it. Attacking hitters know how to hit pitches that aren't strikes and put them in play. I don't think Markakis has that mindest.

[OsLuvrInKy]

I just had to vote for Nick as I just know how much the OP loves him....:laughlol:

[OsLuvrInKy]

Hey oldfan,

Thought you would like to know that Mr. Clutch just gave us the lead against the Sux

[Old#5fan]

Anyone that puts clutch and Markakis in the same sentence is way off base. He is a solid performer, was the only "star" on the roster for quite a while and deserves respect, but not clutch. Miggy just looks more comfortable at the plate than Markakis. I won't walk, I will hit the ball. Miggy hit the HR, when the O's needed it last night. I think he knew with 2 outs it was up to him. In the tenth, the pitch Miggy hit was a ball, but he knew he could place it and get a single. A similar pitch for Markakis, he would have taken it. Attacking hitters know how to hit pitches that aren't strikes and put them in play. I don't think Markakis has that mindest.

Spot on post. That is exactly right. You are one of the few posters here who seems to actually "get it right" when it comes to their take on Markakis.:clap3: