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Steinbrenner: Torre gone if they lose this series

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I like and respect Torre too. Clearly though, George is a lunatic, and if I were Torre, I'd just walk away with my four rings and tell him where he can stick it.

As much crap as I give you for your Yankee-worship, I do respect Torre for his professionalism and for putting up with Steinbrenner's BS all these years.

Firing Torre would be the single dumbest thing Steinbrenner could possibly do.

Naturally, I hope he does. Torre will rebound, and the Yankees might not. I'm rooting for it.

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As much crap as I give you for your Yankee-worship, I do respect Torre for his professionalism and for putting up with Steinbrenner's BS all these years.

Firing Torre would be the single dumbest thing Steinbrenner could possibly do.

Naturally, I hope he does. Torre will rebound, and the Yankees might not. I'm rooting for it.

And that's really what I've been saying for a while, the TEAM, lead by Torre isn't really a hateable bunch (besides Clemens). Forgetting the fans and George for a moment, they're not that bad. If Torre were to leave, Posada, Rodriguez, and Rivera would most likely follow and the Yankees would be less of a factor.

Saying all that, George certainly makes the Yankees a team worth hating. Especially when he pulls crap like this.

Oh, and for the record, I cannot root for Clemens under any circumstances. So tonight, I'm pulling for this series to end. You know, being from Cleveland and all.

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And that's really what I've been saying for a while, the TEAM, lead by Torre isn't really a hateable bunch (besides Clemens). Forgetting the fans and George for a moment, they're not that bad. If Torre were to leave, Posada, Rodriguez, and Rivera would most likely follow and the Yankees would be less of a factor.

Saying all that, George certainly makes the Yankees a team worth hating. Especially when he pulls crap like this.

I just fundamentally disagree that Clemens is the only hateable guy. Giambi, Posada, Farnsworth, Sheffield (I know..), Damon, Abreu...and JETER, God, what a poon.

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I just fundamentally disagree that Clemens is the only hateable guy. Giambi, Posada, Farnsworth, Sheffield (I know..), Damon, Abreu...and JETER, God, what a poon.

Farnsworth I'll give you, the rest are fine. In fact, I don't get the Jeter thing at all. He's never gotten in any trouble off the field at all. Yea, he gets more attention than he deserves, but that's not his fault. I think everyone just "hates" him because he's the face of the Yankees. If he played for the Rockies (or Indians) the board would like him.

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Farnsworth I'll give you, the rest are fine. In fact, I don't get the Jeter thing at all. He's never gotten in any trouble off the field at all. Yea, he gets more attention than he deserves, but that's not his fault. I think everyone just "hates" him because he's the face of the Yankees. If he played for the Rockies (or Indians) the board would like him.

I just think he's a smug a-hole. He knows he's the luckiest man in the world, but he just can't help rubbing your face in it a little bit.

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I just think he's a smug a-hole. He knows he's the luckiest man in the world, but he just can't help rubbing your face in it a little bit.

He is the luckiest man in the world, and that's the problem on the board. It's called envy. He's a good ballpayer, I don't care about the prima donna crap. I'm not looking to date him, I just like to watch him play. If he played SS for our hometown Indians, everyone would be pulling for him. It's the Yankee factor, and nothing else. Try to look past it, and you'll see a very good baseball player who stays fairly clean on and off the field.

Would we rather look up to Jay Gibbons, who isn't a good ballplayer and doesn't stay clean?

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He is the luckiest man in the world, and that's the problem on the board. It's called envy. He's a good ballpayer, I don't care about the prima donna crap. I'm not looking to date him, I just like to watch him play. If he played SS for our hometown Indians, everyone would be pulling for him. It's the Yankee factor, and nothing else. Try to look past it, and you'll see a very good baseball player who stays fairly clean on and off the field.

Would we rather look up to Jay Gibbons, who isn't a good ballplayer and doesn't stay clean?

You're right. It's not him, it's the media image.

I find that to be a perfectly acceptable reason for hating him.

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You're right. It's not him, it's the media image.

I find that to be a perfectly acceptable reason for hating him.

I'm glad someone finally said that. Of course it's the image. You can't deny he's a good ballplayer, no one can no matter how much they "hate" the Yankees. The media has chosen him because he's a good player who seemingly stays away from controversy. Yes they make way too big a deal of him, but so what. Doesn't bother me one bit.

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I don't like Jeter, but I respect him as a ballplayer.

He's the second best shortstop on the Yankees roster.

With all due respect, that doesn't really make sense. Unless you know him and you don't like him as a man. All we know is him as a ballplayer. So if you respect him as a player, and don't know him personally, how can you "not like him"? I dont get it. Unless it's as simple as "Well, he plays for the Yankees, so I don't like him".

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I'm glad someone finally said that. Of course it's the image. You can't deny he's a good ballplayer, no one can no matter how much they "hate" the Yankees. The media has chosen him because he's a good player who seemingly stays away from controversy. Yes they make way too big a deal of him, but so what. Doesn't bother me one bit.

He's a below-average SS and a very good contact hitter. A solid player, for sure. But nowhere near what his image is.

The Gold Glove thing is what pisses me off the most. The average fan thinks it mean something that he wins that award every year, and that only makes him more famous. Grrrrrr.

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