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Too funny! I don't think the Orioles give out that kind of money though! :D

As for the story, I just ask for everyone's patience. I can not and will not rush this until I get all sides. I have no desire to run a character assassination or to deliver something that I'm not willing to stand behind 100 percent.

I know it's tough to wait, and I want to get this stuff out, but at the same time, I would not be doing my due diligence if I did not work on corroboration as well as giving the Orioles a chance to respond before it's published. This will take time so please, just hang in there.

You don't have to explain why you haven't released anything yet.

We understand you want to get it right and not burn anybody.

Thank you for the information provided thus far.

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Bordick is now teaching Scott Moore to play second. Hopefully he can teach him how to throw on a double play.

That's cool, good use of resources. I know he was working with a lot of the young kids down in FL for a while, and I heard he was roving around lately. Moore's bat would be a nice treat at 2B if he can get by there.

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Too funny! I don't think the Orioles give out that kind of money though! :D

As for the story, I just ask for everyone's patience. I can not and will not rush this until I get all sides. I have no desire to run a character assassination or to deliver something that I'm not willing to stand behind 100 percent.

I know it's tough to wait, and I want to get this stuff out, but at the same time, I would not be doing my due diligence if I did not work on corroboration as well as giving the Orioles a chance to respond before it's published. This will take time so please, just hang in there.

The more I hear, the bigger this sounds.

And by "bigger" I mean "stomach-turningly dreadful."

This must go right to the top, boys and girls.

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You don't have to explain why you haven't released anything yet.

We understand you want to get it right and not burn anybody.

Thank you for the information provided thus far.

Exactly. Tony said clearly just a few days ago that it would be a week or two before he shares his findings. My best guess would put that late this week or early next week.

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Too funny! I don't think the Orioles give out that kind of money though! :D

As for the story, I just ask for everyone's patience. I can not and will not rush this until I get all sides. I have no desire to run a character assassination or to deliver something that I'm not willing to stand behind 100 percent.

I know it's tough to wait, and I want to get this stuff out, but at the same time, I would not be doing my due diligence if I did not work on corroboration as well as giving the Orioles a chance to respond before it's published. This will take time so please, just hang in there.

This is all a ploy so I have to renew my membership that expires soon...:rofl:

not that I wasn't going to anyway....:laughlol:

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Too funny! I don't think the Orioles give out that kind of money though! :D

As for the story, I just ask for everyone's patience. I can not and will not rush this until I get all sides. I have no desire to run a character assassination or to deliver something that I'm not willing to stand behind 100 percent.

I know it's tough to wait, and I want to get this stuff out, but at the same time, I would not be doing my due diligence if I did not work on corroboration as well as giving the Orioles a chance to respond before it's published. This will take time so please, just hang in there.

If I've waited 13+ years for an Orioles winning season, I think I have the patience to wait a week for this.

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The tone of Tony's post has me increasingly worried. We are the worst team in baseball. We have been one of the worst teams in baseball every year for over a decade. What could be going on that is so disheartening/surprising that we can't already see?

Also, I would imagine Sun writers and Post writers are trying to scoop at least parts of this story. I would not be surprised to see some related stories come out in the next couple weeks. Im sure Roch knows things as well, but due to his employer, will have to keep his mouth shut.

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The tone of Tony's post has me increasingly worried. We are the worst team in baseball. We have been one of the worst teams in baseball every year for over a decade. What could be going on that is so disheartening/surprising that we can't already see?

Also, I would imagine Sun writers and Post writers are trying to scoop at least parts of this story. I would not be surprised to see some related stories come out in the next couple weeks. Im sure Roch knows things as well, but due to his employer, will have to keep his mouth shut.

In addition to pulling open the curtain on one, or more, of the many reasons we have failed to compete thus far, perhaps it is also of a nature that will dampen any hopes of significant improvement in the foreseeable future.

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In addition to pulling open the curtain on one' date=' or more, of the many reasons we have failed to compete thus far, perhaps it is also of a nature that will dampen any hopes of significant improvement in the foreseeable future.[/quote']

The ultimate revelation would be that the frenzied conspiracy theories about the O's being run principally as a cash cow (which I have never accepted) are in fact true.

It's one thing if the team fails while being run in an earnest, straightforward manner. That's not fun, but it's palatable as long as a full effort is being made in good faith.

But if the effort is presented as a full commitment, when in fact the team is being cynically milked dry for profits, that would be stunning and disheartening -- probably the final straw for many fans.

That would be very difficult to document and corroborate, but I almost can't conceive what else could be as dire as this seems to be.

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The ultimate revelation would be that the frenzied conspiracy theories about the O's being run principally as a cash cow (which I have never accepted) are in fact true.

It's one thing if the team fails while being run in an earnest, straightforward manner. That's not fun, but it's palatable as long as a full effort is being made in good faith.

But if the effort is presented as a full commitment, when in fact the team is being cynically milked dry for profits, that would be stunning and disheartening -- probably the final straw for many fans.

That would be very difficult to document and corroborate, but I almost can't conceive what else could be as dire as this seems to be.

That would certainly be a death knell for the remaining fan base, and probably the absolute worst-case scenario. My hunch is that it's more along the lines of certain individuals in the Warehouse who are completely obstinate towards the widely held methods of running a successful MLB organization (or perhaps just flat-out incompetent). However they are considered "untouchable" by the very top and have full authority to do as they see fit regardless of what the publicly stated organizational philosophy might be.

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I bet you this whole organization is a scam. I bet that its a money making business and winning has little to no importance. This is what I gather from reading the OP and seeing the moves MacPhail has been making. MacPhail and Angelos creating a money making scam.

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The tone of Tony's post has me increasingly worried. We are the worst team in baseball. We have been one of the worst teams in baseball every year for over a decade. What could be going on that is so disheartening/surprising that we can't already see?

John Angelos has been given full control of the team. Also, the Orioles are hiding evidence of Markakis using steroids.

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If all they wanted to do was make money, why wouldn't they have a Marlins-like payroll? Why wouldn't they have traded away Wigginton and Millwood for nothing a month ago, when both were performing well, just to dump unnecessary salary? I can see where there isn't a commitment to having a healthy payroll right now, but if it was all about making every last penny I would think the payroll would be much less than it is now.

Or worse yet, maybe that is their intention and they simply stink at that too. Maybe there is an area where even the Pirates have out-performed us. :P

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If all they wanted to do was make money' date=' why wouldn't they have a Marlins-like payroll? Why wouldn't they have traded away Wigginton and Millwood for nothing a month ago, when both were performing well, just to dump unnecessary salary? I can see where there isn't a commitment to having a healthy payroll right now, but if it was all about making every last penny I would think the payroll would be much less than it is now.

Or worse yet, maybe that is their intention and they simply stink at that too. Maybe there is an area where even the Pirates have out-performed us. :P[/quote']

Well, to answer your questions, you would want to establish expectations such that you would sell enough tickets and enough advertising to offset the higher payroll. You can have an inferior product, but the value of the product is the buyer's perception of its value, not an objective measure.

This is probably just a part of it, but I would guess that the O's aren't going to hire a new manager this season so they don't have to pay the salaries for two managers.

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