Seriously...what is up with Wieters?

[man toe]

I have noticed the icepack also. Maybe its just what baseball is doing these days? A catcher does throw the ball back every pitch. Even if it is easy toss maybe they think it helps?

I've also noticed he lets go of the bat on his follow through. When he hits for power he doesn't do that. Don't know if it's related.

[mweb]

Prospects do seem to get hyped a bit too much these days, but there was good reason for a large share of the hype with Wieters.

Sadly, I do not know what the deal is with him either, but I would also love to have more insight on why he's struggled so much. There have been stretches were he's looked really good, but overall, it obviously hasn't clicked.

BTW, SG, you asked RZNJ if he would deal Wieters for Posey the other day in a debate with him, and it seemed like you asked that thinking that the correct answer is no. But at the same time, it doesn't seem like you have much faith in Wieters. So if you wouldn't do that trade, why?

[Sports Guy]

Sorry but this is just absurd. Of course there was doubt that he would become a big time star. That doubt exists with every single prospect. Until they're stars, they're just potential stars. And the word potential inherently implies doubt/uncertainty.

But there was no reason to bring up that point for no reason.

On your Cubs boards, how many threads have you started about Castro maybe being a bust? What about your top prospects? Provide us with links where you sit there and just question these guys time and time again.

[Sports Guy]

Prospects do seem to get hyped a bit too much these days, but there was good reason for a large share of the hype with Wieters.

Sadly, I do not know what the deal is with him either, but I would also love to have more insight on why he's struggled so much. There have been stretches were he's looked really good, but overall, it obviously hasn't clicked.

BTW, SG, you asked RZNJ if he would deal Wieters for Posey the other day in a debate with him, and it seemed like you asked that thinking that the correct answer is no. But at the same time, it doesn't seem like you have much faith in Wieters. So if you wouldn't do that trade, why?

I honestly need to know what Wieters looked like in college to be honest.

If this is how he looked in college and early in his MiL career, then I would do that trade in a heartbeat.

[Sports Guy]

Prospects do seem to get hyped a bit too much these days, but there was good reason for a large share of the hype with Wieters.

Sadly, I do not know what the deal is with him either, but I would also love to have more insight on why he's struggled so much. There have been stretches were he's looked really good, but overall, it obviously hasn't clicked.

BTW, SG, you asked RZNJ if he would deal Wieters for Posey the other day in a debate with him, and it seemed like you asked that thinking that the correct answer is no. But at the same time, it doesn't seem like you have much faith in Wieters. So if you wouldn't do that trade, why?

I honestly need to know what Wieters looked like in college to be honest.

If this is how he looked in college and early in his MiL career, then I would do that trade in a heartbeat.

[Sports Guy]

Prospects do seem to get hyped a bit too much these days, but there was good reason for a large share of the hype with Wieters.

Sadly, I do not know what the deal is with him either, but I would also love to have more insight on why he's struggled so much. There have been stretches were he's looked really good, but overall, it obviously hasn't clicked.

BTW, SG, you asked RZNJ if he would deal Wieters for Posey the other day in a debate with him, and it seemed like you asked that thinking that the correct answer is no. But at the same time, it doesn't seem like you have much faith in Wieters. So if you wouldn't do that trade, why?

To be honest, I would need to know more about how Wieters looked in college and early in his MiL career vs now.

If his approach, swing, etc...has always been this way, then I would do that trade in a second.

[Scrat1]

Honestly the thought of Wieters busting stresses me out so much that I don't even think about it. Self imposed ignorance. Maybe he's like Delmon Young and will just take a little to find his groove.

[Gurgi]

To be honest, I would need to know more about how Wieters looked in college and early in his MiL career vs now.

If his approach, swing, etc...has always been this way, then I would do that trade in a second.

You said that already!

[Hank Scorpio]

He's an excellent defensive catcher.

[Sports Guy]

You said that already!

What? Follow the conversation.

[Sports Guy]

He's an excellent defensive catcher.

Who cares...I mean really, I don't give a damn about how he is defensively right now.

We need him to be an 850+ OPS guy, not a 700 OPS with a good glove.

[Hank Scorpio]

Who cares...I mean really, I don't give a damn about how he is defensively right now.

We need him to be an 850+ OPS guy, not a 700 OPS with a good glove.

Uhhhhhh, there's a lot of value in having one of the better defensive catchers in the league.

But for the record, I'm still not all that worried yet about his lack of offense.

[mweb]

I honestly need to know what Wieters looked like in college to be honest.

If this is how he looked in college and early in his MiL career, then I would do that trade in a heartbeat.

Fair enough. I guess I'm confused at to why you asked that question in that thread, but whatever.

BTW, you posted this 3 times, thus gurgi's comment.

[Tony-OH]

He's an excellent defensive catcher.

Well he throws well and he blocks the ball well, but his game calling leaves a lot to be desired.

[mweb]

Uhhhhhh, there's a lot of value in having one of the better defensive catchers in the league.

But for the record, I'm still not all that worried yet about his lack of offense.

I agree with point one.

I can't say I share your sentiment on point two. He's been a big disappointment with the bat and I'm not seeing enough to make me confident that will change.