Will Orioles Deal With Mets?

[LookinUp]

If the O's deal Scott for something, they could theoretically make a Millwood-like deal for Beltran at DH/LF (e.g., low cost + get money back). I'd be willing to take some risk on him getting back to being a productive player.

[El Gordo]

Oh, I completely agree that it's 99.9999% unlikely to happen. The Mets aren't stupid. Inept? Maybe. Stupid? No.

It's also 99.99% likely some people will blame AM for not making it happen.

[crowmst3k!]

If Jason Bay could be acquired on the cheap (prospects wise), I'd look into that.

Left Field was a disgrace this year, and I'm not sold on Nolan being able to put it back together. Bay is not suited for playing in Citi, but I think he'd do very well in Camden Yards.

[Stotle]

It's also 99.99% likely some people will blame AM for not making it happen.

If Wright is dealt somewhere else, I agree with you -- and they would be right.

[OsEatAlEast]

I'd love to have either player! But like I've been saying for the past decade or so. The O's need to build a top flight(top flight of the world Craig) farm system. There are no two ways around it! The O's need to build the latter before they even think of the former. Because I am in agreement that it would take a 5-1 deal to get either one unless you have Markakis in the deal and I don't think the O's can afford to do either of those things yet.

[Stotle]

Wouldn't that depend on the package given up for him?

Obviously...

[El Gordo]

If Wright is dealt somewhere else, I agree with you -- and they would be right.

Why? It would depend on what it took to get him. The O's only have so much they can afford to part with. We aren't that deep. If Wright gets dealt it would be for a Bedard type package, and that wasn't such a smart dead was it?

[Sports Guy]

Exactly, which is why the Mets aren't about to deal him, unless completely overwhelmed, which the Orioles can't do. Wright isn't going anywhere. Let's be realistic. Reyes MIGHT be available. I would think that Bay IS available. I would think Beltran IS available. You may not want those guys but that's reality, not fantasy.

You would have to start with a deal that has Guthrie, Jones, and Wieters to get Wright and you'd have to take back a bad contract like Beltran's or Bay's.

I wonder how much cheaper the package gets if you take back Bay?

[El Gordo]

I wonder how much cheaper the package gets if you take back Bay?

The Mets would want pitching. I don't think the O's can afford to give up more than one ML ready SP and they will want more than that regardless of what happens with Bay.

[crowmst3k!]

The Mets would want pitching. I don't think the O's can afford to give up more than one MiL ready SP and they will want more than that regardless of what happens with Bay.

Agreed

french fries.

[Sports Guy]

I don't think it does. As you can see, I had that in mind when I posted. A trade for Wright would have to hurt, as it should.

I agree.

But you have to wonder, what happens if you take on Bay and his whole contract...If you take back Bay, along with Wright, you are taking on close to 100 million dollars...That has to account for something.

Offer up Guthrie or Tillman, Pie and any 3 or 4 prospects they want outside of Britton and Machado(who can't be dealt yet anyway).

[Sports Guy]

Be serious. Can you imagine the new Mets GM explaining to the fans that he traded away Wright and Bay and got back Guthrie, Pie and prospects? Oriole fans would be delirious with joy. It's not realistic.

Pie with or without prospects for Bay makes some sense for both teams if the Mets are trying to shed payroll.

The Wright part of it makes no sense. Again, you'd have to deal two top of the line young players to get him. Not prospects.

I am not really disagreeing with you.

I do think you are really overlooking taking on all of that money and just how important that is here.

HOWEVER, the Mets would have to be desperate to shed payroll to make a move like that and I am not sure you can call them desperate.

[section18]

I would take Bay as part of a deal for either one of these players. Alderson being on the west coast should be very familiar with Jones, Tillman and Arrieta. Add Scott and a Wright deal is very possible with Bay included.

[Sports Guy]

I would take Bay as part of a deal for either one of these players. Alderson being on the west coast should be very familiar with Jones, Tillman and Arrieta. Add Scott and a Wright deal is very possible with Bay included.

And you just made the Orioles a worse team while adding a ton of salary.

[Stotle]

Why? It would depend on what it took to get him. The O's only have so much they can afford to part with. We aren't that deep. If Wright gets dealt it would be for a Bedard type package, and that wasn't such a smart dead was it?

This misses the point and creates an impossible criteria for trades. If you want to trade for impact players, it is going to cost something. We can discuss if Wright is worth targeting based on his production, but BAL should be willing to pay a reasonable price if they indeed interested.

I don't see any comparison to Bedard. Wright is owed a ton of money and would not demand the sheer number of prospects that Bedard demanded. Not to mention you can't make those types of correlations when you are talking about completely different principals involved in the negotiations.

My guess would be a three player deal with one a "throw-in" and two good to very good prospects/MLB players.