Hall of Fame: First Time On Ballot

[Palmoripken]

Hall of Very Good for Bert. I'm in my mid-40's, so I say him pitch for several seasons, loved his intensity, and he is very borderline in my mind, but not HoF worthy. FWIW, he'll gmake the HoF this winter.

Bagwell and Raffy would get my vote (if I had one) over time---maybe in two or three years.

McGwire? Never. A one trick pony, and the juice defined his one trick.

Welcome by the way, not knocking ya but why wait to vote for guys like Palmeiro and Bagwell? Just don't understand that. It's not just you obviously since not every guy gets in on the first ballot but why not vote for someoe who you immediately feels belong. I understand it if you change your mind. I probably could vote McGwire but I do agree with you about him being a one trick pony. Not much of a defensive player and his only tool was his power.

[jrl05]

Thank you for the welcome.

Nothing wrong with you questioning my thought process on Raffy and Bagwell.

A little more clarification, if I could only choose one of the two to make the HoF, it would be Raffy.

If I were a voter, I'd give very few votes to first year eligible players. Henderson, Ripken come to mind. Tony Gwynn was a special player, and certainly HoF worthy, but he probably would not have a received a first year vote from me---call me quirky.

So using this logic, apply it to Bagwell and Palmeiro.

[Palmoripken]

Thank you for the welcome.

Nothing wrong with you questioning my thought process on Raffy and Bagwell.

A little more clarification, if I could only choose one of the two to make the HoF, it would be Raffy.

If I were a voter, I'd give very few votes to first year eligible players. Henderson, Ripken come to mind. Tony Gwynn was a special player, and certainly HoF worthy, but he probably would not have a received a first year vote from me---call me quirky.

So using this logic, apply it to Bagwell and Palmeiro.

No problem. So from what I gather you vote for legends like Cal, Rickey, and others on your first ballot if you have that opportunity and others on a later one. I disagree but I understand where you're coming frow now that you've explained. I'd take Bagwell over Palmeiro but both were great players and I enjoyed watching both bas a kid. Looked at Bagwell's stats to compare and contrast them and I had no idea Bagwell had as much stolen bases as he did. Two seasons with thirty plus steals. You don't see that often from a power hitting 1B.