CBSSports: Hardy & Harris for Hoey & Jacobson a done deal

[Scrat1]

Link? (Not the one from Hyrule)

Just from various Twins blogs and the comments on MLBtraderumors.

Here's one place: http://www.twinkietown.com/2010/12/8/1865273/2010-mlb-winter-meetings-twins-day-3-wrap-up#comments

[VeveJones007]

Just to be clear, Twins got hosed. Bad.

That's what happens when you're a mid-market team and you sign your HOF catcher to a huge deal. You can't afford solid contributors like Hardy. Still, I think they're happy with the Mauer deal. Now we can be too.

[Birds08]

Not sure if I would part with Tillman or who the best 1B/LF options really are, but we should think big.

DLee might be a decent option and a big upgrade from last year, but we still have payroll flexibility and some good pieces to possibly trade.

I think AM is following a pretty good (and somewhat obvious) script so far with Reynolds, Koji and Hardy, but I agree in general that we should not shy away from the premium players - Greinke, Cliff Lee, etc.

Anyone know whereabouts our payroll for next year currently is?

[Capn Vivi]

Is Hardy better than Barlett defensively?

Not quite the highlights Brendan Ryan put up, but check it out:

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=7354707

[MurphDogg]

Nice to see the Orioles taking on Harris in salary relief, presumably in exchange for sending lesser prospects to the Twins. Harris is set to make 1.75 million this season which is wildly extravagant for a terrible utility infielder, especially for a team like the Twins. Hopefully he can bounce back, but if he doesn't and Andino outplays him in spring training I wouldn't be surprised to see Harris have the fattest contract on the Norfolk Tides.

[El Gordo]

The only possible explanation for this, is that for whatever reason, the Orioles like Bartlett better than Hardy. I personally have no idea how that would be possible.

I heard on XM that Bartlett was open to extending with the Pads. That might have been the kicker, if Hardy isn't. But we get Harris as well. I think this is a great move.:2yay-thumb:

[El Gordo]

Is Hardy better than Barlett defensively?

Without a doubt!

[hoosiers]

Maybe I should start another thread that our focus has moved on to Cliff Lee.

[kg orioles]

Nice to see the Orioles taking on Harris in salary relief, presumably in exchange for sending lesser prospects to the Twins. Harris is set to make 1.75 million this season which is wildly extravagant for a terrible utility infielder, especially for a team like the Twins. Hopefully he can bounce back, but if he doesn't and Andino outplays him in spring training I wouldn't be surprised to see Harris have the fattest contract on the Norfolk Tides.

He didn't play much last year why I don't know. But he isn't terrible and he plays every position except catcher so he can be very useful. I agree though if Andino outplays him then no loss.

[Oriolidae85]

Credit to AM. It is tough to build through trades, but he is doing it. This is very impressive stuff. The guy is just so cool under fire.

Just two off seasons ago AM did the very same thing that impressed the fan base with his decisively swift maneuvering, albeit in a rebuilding mode.

[Coker]

HUGE fan of this trade.

[TheBorioles]

Just from various Twins blogs and the comments on MLBtraderumors.

Here's one place: http://www.twinkietown.com/2010/12/8/1865273/2010-mlb-winter-meetings-twins-day-3-wrap-up#comments

Some names Twins fans were throwing around: Roberts, Jones, Markakis, and Koji (even though he was still a free agent; not sure how'd that work).

Yeah I'd say they're going to be upset with this haul.

[Arthur_Bryant]

Anyone know whereabouts our payroll for next year currently is?

I figure it this way:

$33 MM after adding Reynolds

17 MM (approx) Guthrie, Scott, Jones, Pie

5 MM Uehara

6 MM Hardy

1.5 MM Harris

6 MM various league minimums

So, $69 MM more or less although I could be off a bit on the three arb-eligibles and the total number of the pre-arb guys.

[Capn Vivi]

Just from various Twins blogs and the comments on MLBtraderumors.

Here's one place: http://www.twinkietown.com/2010/12/8/1865273/2010-mlb-winter-meetings-twins-day-3-wrap-up#comments

Wow, that's pretty ridiculous. The Twins won 94 games last year! Those fans sound like us!

It's true though, the fact that they're pissed off is a good sign.

[Capn Vivi]

I figure it this way:

$33 MM after adding Reynolds

17 MM (approx) Guthrie, Scott, Jones, Pie

5 MM Uehara

6 MM Hardy

1.5 MM Harris

10 MM various league minimums

So, $73 MM more or less although I could be off a bit on the three arb-eligibles.

Well, in '11 Reynolds only makes $5m. Assuming we pick up the option, though, we will owe him $23.5m over the next 3 years (or $13m over 2 if we decline it).