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Source: Orioles Close To Signing Kevin Gregg To Two Year Deal

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I'm no expert on the economics of bullpens, but I really don't like the idea of having Uehara (glass), Gonzo (glass), JJ (Labrum) and Berken (Labrum) as our top four relievers.

We need to add several arms one way or the other. Hopefully we do this in a prudent manner.

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Whether or not we sign Gregg, what really is the big deal here?

It seems like it's only going to be a 2 year deal, so it's not gonna bootstrap us or anything. I doubt whatever contract he does get is going to affect how we go after other players. And we aren't losing a pick.

I mean, I don't care for signing relievers, and do feel they should all just come from your own system, but a signing like this seems to be no big deal at all.

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I'd be okay with some combination of Koji/Gonzo closing games and do as SG

suggests--find a Delcarmen-type scrap heap player or two to add and hope hope one works out.

Overpaying for bullpen help usually gets teams in trouble--spend it elsewhere. If not this offseason, then next season or to add salary in a trade midseason.

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I am one of the few who actually likes this signing (if it will happen). We need bullpen depth especially with most of our starting pitchers still being young and inexperienced. Good teams need good bullpens!

He is above average, he does not cost us a draft pick and he is only signed for two years. Our manager said he needs bullpen depth in order to succeed, so our Gm went out and got him a nice addition to our bullpen.

I like this move and in no way will it hinder is to spend money on Lee or LaRoche.

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I have an idea. Why dont we just sit and continue to worry about where someone else's money is spent and wait for good to great players to decide they would be willing to play in the Baltimore for "fair market value".

That way, when we look back 10 years from now, we can all wonder why we havent had a winning season in 20+ years and blame Angelos and McPhail for not getting talent.

I dont care if you are the Yankees, Red Sox, Phils or any team. They all have players with insane contracts. It's not like Baltimore would be the first or only MLB team to overpay for talent.

I guess it's just interesting that people will be willing to pay 100 million to a fat first baseman to watch his 40 or so big hits every season...but have an issue paying a whopping 12 million to someone in the most overrated position in the game.

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I have an idea. Why dont we just sit and continue to worry about where someone else's money is spent and wait for good to great players to decide they would be willing to play in the Baltimore for "fair market value".

That way, when we look back 10 years from now, we can all wonder why we havent had a winning season in 20+ years and blame Angelos and McPhail for not getting talent.

I dont care if you are the Yankees, Red Sox, Phils or any team. They all have players with insane contracts. It's not like Baltimore would be the first or only MLB team to overpay for talent.

I guess it's just interesting that people will be willing to pay 100 million to a fat first baseman to watch his 40 or so big hits every season...but have an issue paying a whopping 12 million to someone in the most overrated position in the game.

I think I'd be on board with you if we were talking about a good to great player. But we're talking about Kevin Gregg.

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I have an idea. Why dont we just sit and continue to worry about where someone else's money is spent and wait for good to great players to decide they would be willing to play in the Baltimore for "fair market value".

That way, when we look back 10 years from now, we can all wonder why we havent had a winning season in 20+ years and blame Angelos and McPhail for not getting talent.

I dont care if you are the Yankees, Red Sox, Phils or any team. They all have players with insane contracts. It's not like Baltimore would be the first or only MLB team to overpay for talent.

I guess it's just interesting that people will be willing to pay 100 million to a fat first baseman to watch his 40 or so big hits every season...but have an issue paying a whopping 12 million to someone in the most overrated position in the game.

I see where you're coming from and I partially agree....you'd think by the way people act on here, it's their money they're spending...however, the Sox and Yanks have more money to waste than the Orioles.

We've seen the O's signs stupid contracts before though...there's a difference between the O's overpaying for a reliever and giving a team icon like Jeter the deal he just got.

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I see where you're coming from and I partially agree....you'd think by the way people act on here, it's their money they're spending...however, the Sox and Yanks have more money to waste than the Orioles.

We've seen the O's signs stupid contracts before though...there's a difference between the O's overpaying for a reliever and giving a team icon like Jeter the deal he just got.

Fair enough...but isnt it pretty likely that the O's have more money to waste than they claim? I mean...is a $6 million dollar closer really going to cripple the organization for the next 10 years?

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I agree. But, if it was a great player, we'd probably have to pay twice that.

If it was a great player, I think you'd find more people on board with it. It's why people thought that the Jayson Werth contract was ridiculous, but that the O's should've offered more to Teixeira.

I think on the whole, people around these parts (and I'm broad-brushing to an extent) are okay with the O's overpaying to get great players here. Speaking for myself, I'm not okay with them overpaying on dime-a-dozen relievers. The depth is nice and they need arms, but there are other options that could be had on the cheap that could put up similar production to what Kevin Gregg did last year. Heck, the O's should know this. They got that production out of Jason Berken and Will Ohman last year. Meanwhile, overpaying for relievers has blown up in their faces every single time.

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