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Source: Orioles Close To Signing Kevin Gregg To Two Year Deal


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Nice. I love FA relief pitchers. They are one of the most reliable cross-sections of players. The only downside is, unlike with Gonzalez last year, BAL is still stuck with their second round draft pick. Otherwise, this move, like Gonzalez, is awesome.

I think you forgot the sarcasm smiley... ;)

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Now that is nice.

So as I skim through this thread, 12 million is overspending and a ridiculous contract, but 8-10 is okay?

Not picking on you Pal, but I really don't get this place sometimes. If the money keeps us from getting a first baseman, shame on MacPhail. Otherwise, they can spend whatever they want as far as I'm concerned.

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Whether or not we sign Gregg, what really is the big deal here?

It seems like it's only going to be a 2 year deal, so it's not gonna bootstrap us or anything. I doubt whatever contract he does get is going to affect how we go after other players. And we aren't losing a pick.

I mean, I don't care for signing relievers, and do feel they should all just come from your own system, but a signing like this seems to be no big deal at all.

You're not the first one to say that on this thread, so I gotta speak up, because that's just horrible reasoning. I'm sure they have a budget. Say it's 80 mil a year. 6 mil is 7.5% a year. There are so many good things they could do with that money - big and small - and OF COURSE it could be an issue on whether or not to make an acquisition of a star caliber player. Ok, now they're saying it might be "only" 8-10 mil over 2 years. That's still a major waste of limited resources. A relatively small waste is signing Izturus for 1 year for 1.5 mil. Even that hurts. 8-10 mil mistakes - they're not in a position to make those kind of mistakes on an average reliever or anything with such a limited upside.

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Fine..But instead of 12 million, you could have paid 2 million.

This is just dumb. To overpay 10 million for a 3.8 ERA reliever is idiotic.

You may be exaggerating a bit here. The odds of Gregg being above average are much better than the odds of some guy you pick up for $1 mm/yr being above average.

Gregg has the following going for him: he is not too old, he is experienced, he has pitched in the AL East, he has closed games, he has a good K rate and he has a good health record. His big negative is that he allows a fair number of walks.

I agree we've overpaid. If he gets solid results, I won't care. If he doesn't, I'll be unhappy that he isn't good, more than I'll be unhappy that we overpaid.

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You're not the first one to say that on this thread, so I gotta speak up, because that's just horrible reasoning. I'm sure they have a budget. Say it's 80 mil a year. 6 mil is 7.5% a year. There are so many good things they could do with that money - big and small - and OF COURSE it could be an issue on whether or not to make an acquisition of a star caliber player. Ok, now they're saying it might be "only" 8-10 mil over 2 years. That's still a major waste of limited resources. A relatively small waste is signing Izturus for 1 year for 1.5 mil. Even that hurts. 8-10 mil mistakes - they're not in a position to make those kind of mistakes on an average reliever or anything with such a limited upside.

I'm just not sure they think this way. I.e., if they don't sign Gregg, they aren't going to take the money they've saved and put it into international scouting or the draft. They spend on those things what they think they are worth -- not that we necessarily agree with what they think, but I don't think they see the draft budget or the scouting budget as something that is fungible with the major league payroll.

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