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Which of these 4 remaining Type A FA's interest you?  

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  1. 1. Which of these 4 remaining Type A FA's interest you?



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How is he burying his head in the sand?

Giving the indication that Beltre could not be had, and that it's too far out the possibility to sign someone to a $13 million a year contract. We resigned Roberts and Markakis to nearly the same amount, and with Robert's back already breaking down combined with Markakis having a down year (in my opinion), I'd say if anyone has proven that they are a risk for the money invested, they would be tops on the list.

"and he would require a Werth like contract to come here, which is even dumber than a draft pick for Balfour or Pavano". What does this show ?

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Giving the indication that Beltre could not be had, and that it's too far out the possibility to sign someone to a $13 million a year contract. We resigned Roberts and Markakis to nearly the same amount, and with Robert's back already breaking down combined with Markakis having a down year (in my opinion), I'd say if anyone has proven that they are a risk for the money invested, they would be tops on the list.

Show me where I said, or implied that.

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13 straight losing seasons I believe and the majority of the fans in this poll have NO interest in persuing the best free agents available. Simply amazing. All because we don't want to give up a draft pick when the organizations draft history the past decade has been putrid at best.

These ideas need moar nuance.

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13 straight losing seasons I believe and the majority of the fans in this poll have NO interest in persuing the best free agents available. Simply amazing. All because we don't want to give up a draft pick when the organizations draft history the past decade has been putrid at best.

There are more ways to build a winning baseball team than by signing premium free agents like Grant Balfour.

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There are more ways to build a winning baseball team than by signing premium free agents like Grant Balfour.

Go ahead and pick the worse name on the list. Ignoring the fact that a gold glove 3b who will hit at least 20-25 homers a year and one of the best relief pitchers in the majors is also available.

I agree, there are other ways to build a franchise than through free agency. For instance, building a franchise through the draft.....doh! Having a strong international scouting department.....doh! The fact of the matter is this organization has a very weak farm system and even worse international department. It's been 13 years. Shall we wait another 10 and see if they got their act together internally?

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Go ahead and pick the worse name on the list. Ignoring the fact that a gold glove 3b who will hit at least 20-25 homers a year and one of the best relief pitchers in the majors is also available.

I agree, there are other ways to build a franchise than through free agency. For instance, building a franchise through the draft.....doh! Having a strong international scouting department.....doh! The fact of the matter is this organization has a very weak farm system and even worse international department. It's been 13 years. Shall we wait another 10 and see if they got their act together internally?

Ignoring the fact that this 3B has repeatedly made it clear he doesn't want to play in B'more, and has turned down a 5/70 offer, is dumb. It would take Werth like money to sign him and that is ridiculous overspending.
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Igmoring the fact that this 3B has repeatedly made it clear he doesn't want to play in B'more, and has turned down a 5/70 offer, is dumb. It would take Werth like money to sign him and that is ridiculous overspending.

The poll question wasn't Which of these free agents do you think we will sign. To have so many people not have even an interest in the Orioles persuing Beltre or Soriano is a joke.

The fact that a player openly states he doesn't want to play in B'more doesn't seem to deter the Lee supporters one bit.

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Go ahead and pick the worse name on the list. Ignoring the fact that a gold glove 3b who will hit at least 20-25 homers a year and one of the best relief pitchers in the majors is also available.

I agree, there are other ways to build a franchise than through free agency. For instance, building a franchise through the draft.....doh! Having a strong international scouting department.....doh! The fact of the matter is this organization has a very weak farm system and even worse international department. It's been 13 years. Shall we wait another 10 and see if they got their act together internally?

This line of reasoning is never viable. OK, so the Orioles are bad at drafting/developing/international scouting. Why on Earth would the "solution" to those problems be sinking money into the FA market? What makes you think an organization with such a poor, all-around track record would make better FA decisions than it does draft/international decisions? It doesn't make sense.

And moving beyond that...FA contracts for relief pitching? Seriously? Mike Gonzalez? Baez? How many relief contracts inked by the Orioles have resulted in slam-dunk "wins" for the team? As for Beltre...how many different ways does a player have to make clear he doesn't want to play here before casual fans let the point drop? Especially in light of the fact that the Orioles already have a new, third baseman. Seriously, IMO, it's the domain of fantasy-players to think "positional musical chairs" is a legitimate solution to fill ML holes. We need a 1B, not a 3B, and our remaining options suck. I was one of this board's biggest advocates for signing Dunn, but since he went elsewhere I'm not going to argue in favor of throwing bad money after none.

And please don't tell me you'd favor signing Pavano to a 3/30ish-type deal? If so, you might as well slap a half-dozen stamps on your credibility and ship it straight to Guam.

Ridiculous...

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The poll question wasn't Which of these free agents do you think we will sign. To have so many people not have even an interest in the Orioles persuing Beltre or Soriano is a joke.

The fact that a player openly states he doesn't want to play in B'more doesn't seem to deter the Lee supporters one bit.

There is a big difference in overpaying Lee (1/10 or 2/18) than there is in overpaying Beltre (6/102, maybe even 7 years). Beltre has already turned down an offer of 5/70 from a team that he supposedly wants to play for. How much do you think it would take to get him here.

As far as offering Soriano, I think people don't want to give up another draft pick for a reliever. We're likely not contending this year, so why pay for that luxury (and cost yourself a pick in a deep draft) when you don't need to?

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I could almost see Beltre... but it just diminishes Reynolds, moving him to first. Not worth the money for the monkey wrench it would throw in.

I think that if Reynolds were an outstanding defender at 3B, there would be some loss of value. But except for Cal's comments the other day, I haven't seen any reason to believe that Reynolds is that good. Most 3Bmen would have an easy transition to 1B, because the reactions and hands play equally well there, and I expect that after a while Reynolds would be good on the other side of the infield. And of course Beltre would be outstanding.

In terms of the bat, Reynolds plays well anywhere.

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I have no idea why anyone would give up a draft pick for any of the guys not named Beltre and he would require a Werth like contract to come here, which is even dumber than a draft pick for Balfour or Pavano.

I agree here. Only Beltre would I consider, but thats a moot point becvause he isn't coming here. The remaining type A's aren't worth a 2nd round pick. It just doesn't make sense. I am actually happy who the remaining type A's are because I figure even the O's aren't gonna be able to figure a way to ruin our 2nd round pick this year.....we need it! How often can you get a 2nd round pick who is in college and still has a strong ceiling?

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I agree here. Only Beltre would I consider, but thats a moot point becvause he isn't coming here. The remaining type A's aren't worth a 2nd round pick. It just doesn't make sense. I am actually happy who the remaining type A's are because I figure even the O's aren't gonna be able to figure a way to ruin our 2nd round pick this year.....we need it! How often can you get a 2nd round pick who is in college and still has a strong ceiling?

You know alot more about the draft than I do. What kind of guys should be there with the 2nd pick. Where would they rank in our system?

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This line of reasoning is never viable. OK, so the Orioles are bad at drafting/developing/international scouting. Why on Earth would the "solution" to those problems be sinking money into the FA market?

Exactly. That was my point as well. Although I did not make it nearly as eloquently as you did.

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