Lots of well connected people are saying Edsalls name.

[Birds of B'more]

I think UConn would like to know where this great recruiter is that you're talking about...

I never said he was a "great recruiter." But I think we can all agree Friedgen wasn't either. Hence, I said slightly better.

[Sports Guy]

You totally pwned me, with long a detailed diatribe on what a great guy Edsall is...

I'm happy to know that when the Terps are being shelled by the likes of NC State, Wake Forest, FSU and V. Tech year in and year out again, that my coach is a very swell guy.

First off friend: The fact that Leach won in a talent laden state like Texas, is way more impressive than a coach who brings a 1-AA team to 1-A and manages to win a league that isn't very impressive since most of the great coaches left it.

Second: I can wow a girl's parents by being kind to them, while thinking of all the nasty things I'm going to do to her later on that night. I don't care if he is a better sweet talker than leach. Stats wise, he is nothing compared to Leach, and he is not a better recruiter than the Fridge's coaches. Maryland has managed to get a bunch of two and three star recruits without Edsall's help.

Third: It's always a good hire by the pundits... We could've hired a high school football coach and someone would've said it was a great hire by the Terps!

Last: While it's tragic that the player died and I'm glad the team stuck together through it all, I don't give a damn when it comes to football. He also had a player charged with child pornography. Should that count against him when it comes to football? I mean by your logic...

Edsall is a bad hire...

You should have stopped there.

[JohnD]

Randy Edsall is 1-16 against ranked teams.

I'm thrilled by this hire.

[Whatss]

In many, many, many ways, the ACC is every bit the crater of a conference that the Big East is. And you don't think moving from Division 1-AA to 1-A is hard? Go ahead and tell me the last coach to go from 1-AA to a 1-A major conference title in less than 10 years. I'll wait.

We'll see if Edsall's a bad hire or not. If he's able to keep the local talent from fleeing like Fridge couldn't, and does something with them on the field, I'll be stoked. It's way to early to judge that, though. Connecticut didn't have nearly the resources that Maryland has, and yet he was able to do pretty well for himself there.

So they beat Rutgers when they were in 1-AA and they went to a league where they could beat Rutgers again... So what? Point is, if Petrino stayed at Louisville; if Rodriguez stayed at WVU; Edsall's Huskies would've been in the bottom of the league. And yeah, the ACC is down on football as well. And Maryland couldn't manage to beat Va. Tech and FSU. Their not going to beat them with Edsall at the helm. Teams have been known to switch conferences and do well. Hell Louisville left C-USA, which hardly should've been considered a 1-A league in football and joined the Big East, and with Petrino at the helm won a BCS bowl game.

Oh BTW... Boise State came from the FCS.

[Birds of B'more]

Randy Edsall is 1-16 against ranked teams.

I'm thrilled by this hire.

Being in the Big East, I'm surprised UConn has played that many ranked teams.

[Sports Guy]

As best I can tell' date=' the was a lot of division inside UM about Leach. Some were impressed, others were adamant that his personality and baggage were a bad fit. In the face of that opposition, Kevin Anderson went with the safe pick.

I think UM made a statement about what they want in a football program, and a lot of people will be disappointed. But it is what it is.

Edsall should at least do a slightly better job of recruiting than Fridge did. But for those hoping for a more exciting brand of football? Too bad. Edsall's offense can cure even the worst case of insomnia. If you watched the Fiesta Bowl last night, you know what I mean.[/quote']

Not having the talent to compete with Oklahoma doesn't mean he can't get talent on his own.

The people making the "they got blown out in a BCS game" really know nothing.

Would you be happy with Bob Stoops as the MD coach? He had lost 5 straight BCS games and some of them he was destroyed. Does that mean he can't get talent, recruit or coach?

How easy do you guys think it is to recruit to UCONN for football? They have no tradition. Maine/Conn/Vermont/NH/RI isn't exactly an area known for football. He has to go outside of that area, down to the area MD likes to recruit out of and that is also where Penn St, VT and others recruit from.

What Edsall did at UCONN is very impressive.

Whether he can make this a better team than Fridge did is to be seen.

Is Leach going to be a better recruiter than Edsall? Is he going to be able to go into a parents living room and look at them eye to eye and say he was right about the way he treated Craig James' son?

I think hiring either of these guys is good for MD.

What I don't think is that any of the people on this site are educated enough on these 2 to say that one is definitively better than the other.

What I do know is that Edsall is very well respected, that many people thought he should have been the Miami U coach and that he took a nothing football program from a lower division and turned them into a very respectable program.

[Whatss]

You should have stopped there.

Yeah, well if you actually had a valid argument, instead of trying to demean me while throwing out useless crap, I would've.

[Whatss]

Sports Guy's argument: You don't even know what you're talking about /giggle...

I mean the guy plays a mean rogue in World of Warcraft, he is totally qualified to be the President of the United States. I mean hell I would vote for the guy, he said I had nice eyes once.

[Sports Guy]

3-2 bowl record...6 of the last 8 years of 8 or more wins, including 5 of 7 since his team joined the Big East.

[Sports Guy]

Sports Guy's argument: You don't even know what you're talking about /giggle...

I mean the guy plays a mean rogue in World of Warcraft, he is totally qualified to be the President of the United States. I mean hell I would vote for the guy, he said I had nice eyes once.

No, my argument is that YOU don't know anything and you are proving it.

You haven't told me why Leach is a better coach, better recruiter, etc..

You have ignored the differences in recruiting out of the NE vs Texas.

You have ignroed the fact of bringing a team from a different division and how difficult it is.

You are, without a doubt, not very educated on these things..You have a window dressing argument but nothing with substance behind it.

[Whatss]

Not having the talent to compete with Oklahoma doesn't mean he can't get talent on his own.

The people making the "they got blown out in a BCS game" really know nothing.

Would you be happy with Bob Stoops as the MD coach? He had lost 5 straight BCS games and some of them he was destroyed. Does that mean he can't get talent, recruit or coach?

How easy do you guys think it is to recruit to UCONN for football? They have no tradition. Maine/Conn/Vermont/NH/RI isn't exactly an area known for football. He has to go outside of that area, down to the area MD likes to recruit out of and that is also where Penn St, VT and others recruit from.

What Edsall did at UCONN is very impressive.

Whether he can make this a better team than Fridge did is to be seen.

Is Leach going to be a better recruiter than Edsall? Is he going to be able to go into a parents living room and look at them eye to eye and say he was right about the way he treated Craig James' son?

I think hiring either of these guys is good for MD.

What I don't think is that any of the people on this site are educated enough on these 2 to say that one is definitively better than the other.

What I do know is that Edsall is very well respected, that many people thought he should have been the Miami U coach and that he took a nothing football program from a lower division and turned them into a very respectable program.

You're useless to argue with. Every time someone says something that has to do with FOOTBALL and not personal, you say it's "absurd" to talk about it. If he should've been the Miami U coach, why did he lose the job to a Temple coach who didn't even make a bowl(though they were robbed, IMO).

[Sports Guy]

You're useless to argue with. Every time someone says something that has to do with FOOTBALL and not personal, you say it's "absurd" to talk about it. If he should've been the Miami U coach, why did he lose the job to a Temple coach who didn't even make a bowl(though they were robbed, IMO).

All I have done is talk football.

It is absurd to talk about how he got blown out by Oklahoma.

The differences in the 2 programs is incredible, regardless of how good or bad of a coach Edsall is.

[JohnD]

I will say I'll take Edsall over Leach. I'm just not sure the school didn't make a lateral move on this.

[Whatss]

No, my argument is that YOU don't know anything and you are proving it.

You haven't told me why Leach is a better coach, better recruiter, etc..

You have ignored the differences in recruiting out of the NE vs Texas.

You have ignroed the fact of bringing a team from a different division and how difficult it is.

You are, without a doubt, not very educated on these things..You have a window dressing argument but nothing with substance behind it.

So you're basically saying that Edsall can't get the recruits that makes a team great?

You can call me names all you want. Leach had a far better record against top 25 teams, had better recruits, had a fun team to watch and played in a tougher football conference.

Maryland could beat Rutgers too...

[Whatss]

All I have done is talk football.

It is absurd to talk about how he got blown out by Oklahoma.

The differences in the 2 programs is incredible, regardless of how good or bad of a coach Edsall is.

No.. You go on a diatribe about how stupid others are, how great a guy Edsall is personally and how we can't compare a good UConn team in a weak conference, to a great team who blew them out the night before. Yeah Stoops has been down lately, but how many BCS Titles does he have compared to Edsall? Yeah, exactly. They aren't in a league and UConn doesn't belong on the same field as OK...

The point is, though you're too blind to do anything more than insult people who are saying it, is that when the A.D. makes the statement to fire a Good Coach, because he wan'ts a Great One, he better well damn hire a coach who excites the fan base.

Now go ahead with the insults again, since it's the only way you can debate this.