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Is he really? Over the past five years, he's had 600-plus plate appearances every year, including last year, except for 2009, when he had 400-plus. He seems very sturdy to me, especially so at DH.

These same "washed up" concerns were all over the OH last year. After reading them for a month or so, I then went on to watch him sign with Texas... be named to the All-Star team... earn the Silver Slugger award... and pocket double-digit MVP votes. It was also interesting to watch him anchor the Rangers' lineup in the World Series, and finish 9th in the league in homers and total bases, and 5th in at-bats per strikeout.

I agree he's past his prime (anyone over 30 probably is, physically). But he'd be a great addition to the line-up IMO.

People need to stop posting bs right now about health and start posting facts about how many at bats a player has earned. It has been rampant in the D.Lee discussions and now Vlad.

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I think the only way we'll pick up Vlad is if we trade Luke. Could Luke be trade bait for a starting pitcher?

Could Luke be headed to the Cubs with either Dempster or Zambrano and cash coming back to the O's if the Cubs are able to trade for Garza?

Should a deal with Luke for a starter go down, the O's could sign Thome to DH against righties and Reimold could DH against lefties with Pie in LF. Then you add a Hairston or Andruw Jones as your 4th OF and LF'er against tough lefties....

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I'm not sold on trying to bring in Vlad or any DH at this point. But just imagine for a second we do that on the cheap and hold on to Scott as our LF.

Our line-up would be flat out scary.

BRob

Kakes

Vlad

Scott

Reynolds

Lee

Jones

Wieters

Hardy

Are you kidding me.

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I'm not sold on trying to bring in Vlad or any DH at this point. But just imagine for a second we do that on the cheap and hold on to Scott as our LF.

Our line-up would be flat out scary.

BRob

Kakes

Vlad

Scott

Reynolds

Lee

Jones

Wieters

Hardy

Are you kidding me.

That lineup has no speed. We need team speed. It's as important as anything. Everything for that matter, relies on team speed. ;)

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I'm not sold on trying to bring in Vlad or any DH at this point. But just imagine for a second we do that on the cheap and hold on to Scott as our LF.

Our line-up would be flat out scary.

BRob

Kakes

Vlad

Scott

Reynolds

Lee

Jones

Wieters

Hardy

Are you kidding me.

I would have it:

Roberts

Markakis

Lee

Scott

Vlad

Reynolds

Jones

Wieters

Hardy

Still impressive...either way you look at it. :D

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I know you don't care about defense, but neither of those guys can play CF adequately.

Pie can't play LF adequately and was among the worse defenders in baseball at that position.

So Scott/Reimold would actually be an upgrade in LF defensively even with Hairston in CF.

Jerry's played games in CF over the past few seasons, so he's adequate out there for the role he'd have unless you expect Jones to miss huge amounts of playing time.

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Pie can't play LF adequately and was one of the worst LFers in baseball defensively according to UZR.

So Scott/Reimold would actually be an upgrade in LF defensively even with Hairston in CF.

Jerry's played games in CF over the past few seasons, so he's adequate out there for the role he'd have unless you expect Jones to miss huge amounts of playing time.

I keep forgetting you don't actually watch the games.

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I would have it:

Roberts

Markakis

Lee

Scott

Vlad

Reynolds

Jones

Wieters

Hardy

Still impressive...either way you look at it. :D

Yes, I can see it that way as well.

It is true we may be the slowest team in baseball, but its not like Pie is going to steal us 50 bases. Eff it.

That lineup would RAKE

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Pie can't play LF adequately and was among the worse defenders in baseball at that position.

So Scott/Reimold would actually be an upgrade in LF defensively even with Hairston in CF.

Jerry's played games in CF over the past few seasons, so he's adequate out there for the role he'd have unless you expect Jones to miss huge amounts of playing time.

Um... you think Reimold is an UPGRADE over Pie in LF? I have some bad news for you...

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