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Another solid Raw in IMO. I'm loving all the Rock/Cena stuff.
WWE is actually building this PPV properly. Plenty of focus on the HHH/Taker, Rock/Cena, and Punk/Jericho matches. We're still a month away, but with the amount of build they've done, it feels like the PPV should be this Sunday. This is how a PPV is supposed to be..when two guys fight it's supposed to feel like FINALLY we get these two in the ring and get the big payoff. I think that's what we should get with all 3 of those matches, and to a lesser degree, Bryan/Sheamus.
I also think they GM vs GM tag match could be good if they book it properly.
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Supposedly the WWE put a video up that showed the Rock's promo, but the notes on his wrist were nowhere to be found. Pretty sure that part at least was not a work. Probably Rock being super busy, having less time to prepare than he should have, and just wanting to be sure he hit on the things he needed to.
I think he was just a touch off, while Cena was in the zone, and as I said in the last point, there's probably a good chance he just wasn't prepared. Hopefully WWE gets his focus for the next month and he'll be on top of his game next time. And, let me just say, Rock slightly off his game, is still better than nearly everyone else on their game.
And I don't think Rock would go for an angle where he looked like that during a promo. I think he would rather Cena physically harm him during a promo than look bad. That has always been his bread and butter, I just can't see him agreeing to that. Everything I've read has implied these guys have quite a bit of creative control over what they say, I think Rock was just at a bit of a loss when Cena was speaking, and certainly frustrated.
Maybe I'm buying into it and the little kid in me is coming out, but I think a lot of this with them is very real.
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Gotta say I'm gaining a rooting interest in Cena. Rock has always been incredibly talented and charismatic with a mic in his hand, and for Cena to go toe to toe with him verbally and handle him makes me gain a lot of respect. There's a way to be a "hustle, loyalty, respect" kind of guy without being as corny and stale as Cena has been. Plus, I do think Cena genuinely cares about the WWE and the fans, while I would say Rock's interests are primarily a big pay day and feeding his ego.
All that said, I think I'm still rooting for Rocky
He seemed pretty stunned and angry when Cena came out, but he rebounded nicely and finished on a high note. I'm anxious for their next little soiree. Cena brought it last year around this time, then basically when right back to his corny image. Regardless of outcome, I'd like this Cena to be the one that stays. -
I enjoyed Rock last night, but I did think he depended a bit much on referencing Twitter. It was must see TV though whenever Cena came out. The great thing about this rivalry is these guys, at least to some degree, completely agree with what they're saying about the other guy. This is not your typical wrestling storyline. For instance, I'm pretty sure Punk and Jericho actually have a huge amount of respect for one another, thus their story, while believable, is fictional (like nearly all storylines). But Cena and Rock legit don't particularly care for one another. Maybe they exaggerate it a bit, but maybe not. Who knows. I think both guys are pretty spot on with what they say about the other. Very enjoyable to watch.
Overall I thought it was a good Raw. They moved the GM storyline along well, and while I still don't really care about it, if they do go Survivor Series style elimination match, it could be entertaining. Would much rather have a MitB match, but oh well.
Glad they had Kane do something, although I'm not sure where they're going with it.
Big Show vs. Rhodes isn't all that interesting, but Cody needs to do something. Still would much rather see something with Goldust, but that doesn't appear likely. If they do end up facing each other, I would hope Rhodes goes over Show. I know he hasn't done much lately, but he's had a very long run with the IC title. I'd just like to see them keep him a bit more involved.
Not sure what they're doing with the tag division, but Bourne getting a 2nd suspension and R Truth getting that first suspension really killed the momentum they had built. Air Boom was the most legit team WWE has had in awhile, and now it's back to a mish mash of guys thrown together and guys we don't care about. I'd like to be interested in Epico and Primo, they do actually work as a team, they make sense together, they've got a hot girl..but I just can't seem to care. Truth and Kofi are both super over, but aside from the one thing they have in common, their characters don't make sense together at all. Swagger and Ziggler can wrestle together some, but both of them should be much more focused on singles wrestling.
There are still quite a number of guys who don't have anything to do at Mania yet, which is exciting, because they've already got 4 great matches on the card. I think this will be a good Mania regardless of what they do with the undercard, but it's typically the undercard that determines whether an event is good vs being great. Hopefully WWE creative delivers.
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CM Punk and Jericho with an excellent back and forth to start the show. I'm glad they let them start things off, I worry about them getting just a bit lost in terms of importance with HHH/Taker and Cena/Rock dominating a lot of focus and importance. Fact is, the match is still for the biggest belt in the land and features one of your most popular current guys and one of the best guys over the last 10+ years.
Great start.
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Dip, make sure you tune in..
Clay is being advertised for tonight's RAW in Portland, Oregon. He made a return to the ring after a few weeks absence in three matches at this past weekend's live events by squashing David Otunga.Somebody call my momma!
Should be a great RAW. Super excited to see what Rock has for Cena, as Cena really brought it last week.
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I read that it is basically already a committment to wrestle at SS.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's basically confirmed.
Plus, it's not like what he does with the WWE will be even close to fulltime. He'll never appear on anything but a Monday night Raw, so I'm sure he could work his movie schedule around that, even if he were to appear at all the Monday Night Raw's.
I'm also torn on who will/should win the Cena/Rock match. One one hand, if Cena wins and it doesn't involve a heel turn, a lot of people who are brutally sick of him will be furious. On the other hand, Rock will never be a full time WWE talent again, so is it really smart to have him come in and whip your top face and then leave? I dunno.
These are why matches like this are so great, just as the WM Rock vs Austin match was. It seems like it would be almost criminal to have one of these two lose given the scenarios at work.
Wrestlemania is setting up to be really special. Definitely a no brainer that I'll be ordering this.
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I know this isn't cool to say anymore, but I thought that Cena promo was awesome.
Strike me down?
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Anyone else remember (and find it funny) that at least year's Mania, Daniel Bryan and Sheamus were supposed to have a match, but it got bumped due to time constraints?
Quite a difference a year makes.
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I'll be honest, when Triple H said he wanted the match to be a Hell in a Cell match, I got chills.
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I LOVE watching Eve, but please give up the storyline with her and Cena/Ryder. She cannot act for beans, and it makes the whole thing obviously forced, weak, and blindingly stupid. And spare me the whole she's hot argument, I just acknowledged it.
Hopefully it continues the slow heel turn for Cena. He's done some things you could say are 'un-cena-like' in the past month. Making out with his good friend's girl, snapping and destroying Swagger..they're setting it up well. Plus, Ryder does better as the underdog. Everyone was all over him while he was chasing the title, now they can be all over him again as he recovers from injuries and fights Cena for hooking up with Eve.
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I know Greg asked about an ultimate WrestleMania card, and that was cool, but what about an ultimate feasible card. Ie, guys that are still alive, and at their current ages and production. I'd go something like this...
Cena vs Rock
Punk vs Stone Cold Steve Austin
UnderTaker vs Brock Lesnar
Triple H vs HBK
Edge vs Christian
WWE Championship: Jericho © vs Daniel Bryan (challenger)
World Heavyweight Championship: Orton © vs Sheamus (challenger)
Mark Henry vs Goldberg
IC Title: Cody Rhodes © vs Golddust
US Title: Jack Swaggar © vs Kurt Angle
Women's Title: Beth © vs Kharma (she kills *****es dead!)
Money in the Bank: Dolph vs Ryder vs Kofi vs Miz vs Truth vs Barrett vs Rey Mysterio vs Alberto Del Rio
Triple threat: Kane vs Big Show vs Brodus Clay
I know it could never happen, as there's a whole crapload of Main Event matches all on one card, but I would attend this event.
Yeah..I just went from six to midnight after seeing this card.
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Haha! I can literally hear him saying that right now. One of my favorite Schiavone quotes was, when Tank Abbott legit pulled a knife on some guy (forget who it was, but Tank was legitimately mad and it was not kayfabe), Schiavone says, "I think, I think he's got a pair of scissors..he's going to cut off his beard." This guy was completely clean shaven. Just classic Schiavone.
Here's a link to something someone put together, a bunch of dramatic Schiavone calls:
Someone could have a ridicouls amount of fun with that.Not to get us distracted, but I just love the ridiculousness that is Tony Schiavone. Just found this twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/SchiavoneTony CLASSIC.
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One of my favorite Tony Schiavone moments:
Towards the end of WCW, they were promoting the "Hardcore Division" pretty strong, where "hardcore" basically mean you could use anything as a weapon.
I'm not going to pretend to remember who the participants were in this match, but it was a hardcore match that went to the back and one of wrestlers pulled out a cookie sheet. And Schiavone, in all seriousness, said, "That's not just a cookie sheet - that's an INDUSTRIAL STRENGTH cookie sheet."
Haha! I can literally hear him saying that right now. One of my favorite Schiavone quotes was, when Tank Abbott legit pulled a knife on some guy (forget who it was, but Tank was legitimately mad and it was not kayfabe), Schiavone says, "I think, I think he's got a pair of scissors..he's going to cut off his beard." This guy was completely clean shaven. Just classic Schiavone.
Here's a link to something someone put together, a bunch of dramatic Schiavone calls:
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So predictable...but damn, The Undertaker is still the man...looked slimmer.
He looked great. Is that hair fake? Wasn't sure if this picture from a little while ago was accurate..
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My guess is just as HHH is ready to fire John L, Taker's music will come on, he will come out and all of the John L stuff will go away as if it never happened.
Well played, Sir!
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Another complaint. We've gotten awesome matches tonight on Raw and they're hard to enjoy while listening to Cole and Lawler. Everyone is always hating on Cole, and he sucks (mainly because the character he's asked to play), but Lawler is just painful to me. He's become the Tony Schiavone of the WWE. Every single Raw is the biggest night ever, every match is the first time we've ever seen it, everything is just THE BEST EVER...EVERY WEEK.
At least we just got our start to the Jericho and Punk program.
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I think it's nice that WWE understands that social media can be very effective. And I love social media. But my goodness, it is so over the top it is annoying as hell. They announce everything that is trending, various star's twitter followers..ENOUGH!
It is painfully annoying.
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My guess is just as HHH is ready to fire John L, Taker's music will come on, he will come out and all of the John L stuff will go away as if it never happened.
That seems to be how they resolve most storylines anymore, so it probably wouldn't be too surprising.
And yeah, they really need to get some things resolved tonight on Raw. I was expecting some of those things to happen at the Rumble, but they didn't. WWE seems to struggle with finding that balance between a storyline that is super rushed and one that drags on with little to no changes or advancing.
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I would say overall I was a bit disappointed. That was probably a given, since I had pretty much built this PPV up in my head and I'm sure my expectations were nearly impossible to live up to.
I thought the World Heavyweight Title match was too quick and disappointing. I'm glad Bryan retained, but Mark Henry was completely non existent in this match. I liked the finish, but again, I thought the action was very minimal in this match and then all of a sudden it was over.
I jokingly said to my friend the other day, "The only way they could ruin this card is throwing some stupid divas match in". Sure enough, we got an 8 diva tag match. The heterosexual male in me tried to enjoy 8 beautiful ladies in the ring prancing about, but it's just a waste of time. The match was actually better than I expected, but still, a waste of my time.
The Cena/Kane match was good, albeit predictable. The double countout sucked, but overall I liked Kane leaving Ryder and Cena laying in the ring. I just don't know where they go from here. Kane is still a monster, Cena hasn't embraced the hate, good did not triumph over evil..it was basically the same thing that's been happening on Raw, but we got a match first. I'm assuming there will be more to come here.
I was glad we got both a Brodus Clay and Drew McIntyre showing, although I was hoping for them in the Rumble. Still loving Brodus, but would love to see him have a real match. McIntyre also continues to get buried with the squash match. Also, I get that it's a squash..but does every match have to be the same exact sequence? Just don't go to the well one too many times WWE; Brodus is building some momentum, give him a real program soon.
The Punk/Ziggler match was great as expected. Those two are simply the best in ring talent in the company right now. Johnny L ultimately didn't screw Punk, although Punk had Ziggler beat 3 times and JL didn't do anything to help as the outside official. I'll be interested to see how Triple H handles the evaluation tonight.
I thought the Rumble was pretty good, although nothing INCREDIBLE. Kofi's handstand to keep himself from being eliminated was pretty cool. I thought Road Dogg was awesome and super entertaining. Considering that I think Billy Gunn can still bring it, these guys could definitely do well back in the WWE. Kharma's return was cool, I suppose. If we're going to be force fed Diva matches, might as well have her in the picture. I thought the end was very good, as Jericho and Sheamus went back and forth for a few minutes, often both teetering on the brink of defeat. In the end, Sheamus delivered a huge Brogue kick to eliminate Jericho and move on. The fan in me was hoping for Jericho to win, but the Rumble victory does much more for Sheamus' career than Jericho's.
All in all, I'd give the event a C+. Had they not had the divas match and instead used that time to give us more in the Heavyweight Championship or Cena/Kane match, or the Brodus Clay match, it might have been up to a B. I also thought with them stressing that "anyone could enter", they might do a bit more with that. I know Show and Ziggler were in it, but I think they could have cut a few people out to have more interesting guys. Kane, Henry, Cena, McIntyre, Brodus should have all been in it. And under no circumstances should Cole have been in the match. Also, a Randy Orton return could have been huge, but they wasted that at Smackdown. Was hoping for Christian maybe, and I always hold out hope that Taker will get involved in some capacity. I think overall I was just a little disappointed because there were so many unique and surprising things that could have happened and none of them really did. Solid show overall, just didn't quite live up to the hype that I had put on it.
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Somebody call my momma because we have a Brodus Clay sighting!
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Enjoyed the Kane/Cena match. It ended in a double count out and then they ended up going to the back, with Kane beating the hell out of Cena. Kane then went and got Ryder and choked him out. He wheeled him out to the ring and gave him a tombstone in front of Eve. Then Cena came running back out and and Kane put him in the ground too.
The double count out kind of sucked, but Kane comes away looking like an absolute monster from all of this.
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First match, the Triple Threat cage match was solid. Bryan retained. Mark Henry, I assume because he's somewhat injured, was barely involved. A bit quicker of a match than I thought it should have been.
And now, we get an 8 diva tag match. Waste..of..time.
He seemed pretty stunned and angry when Cena came out, but he rebounded nicely and finished on a high note. I'm anxious for their next little soiree. Cena brought it last year around this time, then basically when right back to his corny image. Regardless of outcome, I'd like this Cena to be the one that stays.
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Yeah, me too. Considering the main thought is that HBK is staying legit retired and won't have another match, it'd be pretty cool to see him in the ring again.
For those who are interest, the Rock/Cena special is on tonight at 8. I'll probably check it out.