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10 minutes ago, Three Run Homer said:
This is something to consider if Grayson struggles as a starter--he's having trouble throwing 3 pitches effectively, or he's not pitch efficient enough to get through more than 5 innings consistently, or hitters are teeing off on him the 2nd or 3rd time through the order. He does have the high end fastball velocity to be a high end closer.
But if he can be a top-three starter that's more valuable, even in the short run.
I definitely agree that Wells and Suarez should be high-leverage late inning relievers this season.
I am excited about Wells. If he can sit 95, he’s looked really promising in the past.
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20 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:
Is there ANYTHING that the Orioles can realistically do to put them in a position where they won't be supreme title contenders next, the year, the year after that one?
There is no 'desperate' move to make when you have this much excess prospect capital/talent.
Why would we not be willing to part with any of that excess in order to increase our chances to have a parade in the fall ("after we haven't sniffed a title in 40 years")?
Do you not agree that we have more positional player prospects that we could ever use?
I agree that the prospect capital is getting to a point where we need to make some trades. And I think this was part of the plan. Trade from the position player glut. I just wouldn’t want to see us turn into the padres or blue jays and squander the talent infusion.
There’s definitely a balanced approach that I think ME can pull off.
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I feel like Adley is the glue for this team. Others can overshadow him a bit, but the winning started when he showed up and he feels like the type of guy that doesn’t need the recognition.
His skillset pairs well with this. Solid defense. Great approach at the plate. Nothing crazy flashy but absolutely essential. A quietly, insanely productive player.
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And here’s the thing like you said in the OP. What’s the one thing we’re missing right now to feel even better about our WS chances? An “out of the box solution” that undoubtedly strengthens our chances when we haven’t sniffed a title in 40 years.
Yet this also makes me appreciate the current regime. They won’t get desperate and do something short sighted to chase one title. But it is intriguing of how dominant Grayson could be for one season and address our biggest hurdle to a championship.
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1 hour ago, Aristotelian said:
I posted this idea as a one off comment in another thread but thought it might get discussion as a separate thread.
We currently have five starters who are performing well even with Grayson and Wells on the DL. Arguably six if you include Suarez.
Kimbrel is having issues.
What about putting Grayson in the bullpen when he comes back? He throws 98 (maybe harder for 1-2 inning stints) with matchup-proof stuff vs LHB's and RHB's. He profiles similar to Felix as a hard thrower who could nail down multi inning saves when needed.
Grayson in the pen would give us a true three headed monster of Rodriguez-Kimbrel-Cano who could regularly take over games in the 5th or 6th. Stretch Grayson out again next year when Means goes to FA and we get Bautista back. Could Grayson be more valuable to us in the pen this year than in a rotation that is already performing well? Terrible idea, or out of the box thinking that could win us the world series?
I pitched this to my family a day or so ago. David Price came to mind and I’m sure there are other top starter prospects that were used in the bullpen. He could very likely become the shutdown closer we’ve been missing, and then some. And he could go back to starting next year.
And yet I understand the backlash and hesitancy. Starting and relieving can be two different animals and we wouldn’t want to mess with his development.
But I’ve thought about the same thing over the past few days with our starter excess and just knowing that Grayson is a dog and his A level stuff would play up even more out of the bullpen.
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37 minutes ago, SilverRocket said:
19 whiffs in 44 swings. Maybe his best game besides his no-hitter.
It’ll be fun to see him get to pitch meaningful games because I feel like he’ll be a gamer. Was itching for this one I’m sure.
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I like these reverse jinx threads. Keep em coming.
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The stuff looks vintage. Normal Means velo. Spotting the change and mixing it in very effectively. Decent hook. Looking like the mid rotation arm he’s historically been for us…. When healthy
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I have missed the John Means change up.
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Westy’s arm more than adequate there. Nice to see.
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Plenty of negativity around here on Means and how he was gonna look. First inning there was NICE. Vintage.
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3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:
Signing Cruz or Markakis wouldn't have prevented this. At best it would have kept them from signing Davis.
It wouldn't have prevented the decline, but may have improved our chances during the window. Cruz's production would have been pretty helpful, especially if you get to subtract Davis.
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Heyyy. Guys a Gator and I didn't even know it. How 'bout that. Excited to watch.
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God, I feel really lame doing this, but it's something I've noticed. Davis' BA up to .179 and over the last 15 days it's been .298 (albeit it's an empty BA).
The sad part is, I'm not even being sarcastic. With the season he's had, it's been notable when he has a few two hit games over the course of two weeks. It may be his best stretch of the season. I still hope he crawls out of this hole to at least get the OPS near 750 for a few years.
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9 minutes ago, Rene88 said:
Maybe we should be investing more in player development? Scouts?:) Just a thought.
Ben McDonald said today the drastic improvement in his breaking pitch was a big part of the success.
I know we didn’t need more evidence that our org was incompetent with starting pitching but this one hurts. Just like Jake.
If his breaking ball is really clicking, that’s certainly a qualitative improvement it would seem. More time is needed, but he looks to be yet another example of our ineptitude at pitcher development.
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I know, I know, it’s early. But how can we not start feeling like we traded the complete wrong guy at the wrong time? Holy hell. I know it’s reactionary, but since the trade Bundy and Gausman have gone in complete opposite directions. I was still of the mindset that Bundy had more upside and value at the time of the trade. The way Bundy looks now, I would have tried to hang onto the healthy pitcher and not sell low and jumped ship on the broken pitcher and sell high.
This just sucks.
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1 hour ago, Ruzious said:
Put it this way; there's no harm in seeing how he does for the rest of the season, but hopefully we don't build a team by shopping often at the scrap heap.
Yes I agree. DD was adept at the beginning of our run of mining from the scrap heap. It's no way to build a core, but it's not unimportant in finding a nugget or two.
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Will be interesting to see how this guy turns out. Seems like a nice pick up for where we're at. Decent pedigree as a prospect, decent hit potential and passable at 3B at the moment. Still only 24. What's not to like considering we picked him up off the scrap heap?
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5 minutes ago, Chavez Ravine said:
Gausman was good before he left.
He was fine. Not sure if I would call him good. More serviceable with potential for more.
If the Braves tap into that “potential for more”, it’s gonna be hard to stomach.
Especially with Bundy regressing.
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8 minutes ago, 99ct said:
lol awesome. So basically, the usual
REactionary post here:
But if Gausman lights it up for the Braves and Bundy sucks to finish the season, that’s just more damning evidence against whatever we do to screw up pitchers.
Ive been on board for Dan sticking around, but he hasn’t really won with homegrown pitching success. The problem has continued. Makes me wonder if we should just clean house. Doesn’t matter how many prospects we acquire, all we do is screw them up.
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8 hours ago, bobmc said:
"The Orioles re-signed Davis to a seven-year, $161 million contract in January 2016, with managing partner Peter Angelos dealing directly with agent Scott Boras to hammer out the final details. Davis receives $17 million in each of the next four seasons with $42 million in deferred money to be paid in 10 installments of $3.5 million annually from July 1, 2023-32 and five installments of $1.4 million from July 1, 2033-37, according to Cot’s Contracts."
On the human side of it, there's no one I'd want to succeed more. I know he's gonna get paid the rest of his life, but the public shame of having possibly the worst season in MLB history while simultaneously being the highest paid player in franchise history?
It's not for a lack of effort as I think the guy has always put his work in. And he got paid at the level of his production previous in his career. He's just lost it and I feel for him and I hope by some miracle he can become a productive player again.But he's battling a lot to get to that point. An Adam Dunn type finish to his career would be great. That's what I'm hoping for. That would almost be a miracle at this point.
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34 minutes ago, Going Underground said:
My scout friend thinks Diaz can be like Marcell Ozuna if all goes well.He thinks the Orioles got some decent bullpen late relievers in the trades.Villar will be serviceable and may be even better then that.He was never a big Schoop fan.Schoop made another error yesterday.Thinks playing him at SS is not a good plan.Also no walks in last 30 games
I've liked Marcell Ozuna's potential and I guess if this was said last year, I'd be pretty happy. He had a great year last year. But that's really the only solid year he's had. Just interesting that that's the comp he made. Ozuna doesn't really get on base and he hits for power. Looks more like what we've had vs. what Diaz is. I guess we'll see.
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2 hours ago, Frobby said:
To be clear, Trumbo has never hit 50 homers. He hit 47 in 2016, 23 last year. He missed some time this season, and if you take that into account you might project him to end up with 24-25 this year. Maybe a couple more if he gets hot.
Yes yes. I rounded up. Potentially a baseball faux pas.
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