drjohnnyfeva
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It's all just sad. Every time things start going well, it's tempered - or even deflated - by this family. I appreciate what John has done and would hate to see Elias be a casualty of the on-going drama of the Angelos family; but there always seems to be an undercurrent or riptide flowing thru the organization because of this ownership group. I remember being so happy that there was local ownership when the team was purchased. But almost from the beginning, they've managed to be little less than shameful in the handling of the club. I can't imagine either brother giving in, which means trouble on the horizon. Sad after such a fun year of baseball.
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19 hours ago, Legend_Of_Joey said:
Two of the times I’ve seen it this season (in the last month-ish), it was on an inside pitch and the batter swung down at it at the last second, like he was chopping. Ended up getting the catchers mitt. I wonder if this is being taught now.
Yep... beats the shift too.
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3 hours ago, maybenxtyr said:
They're all competitive for different reasons. Some for spending, some for drafting, and some for drafting and spending. I don't understand how looking at the AL East brings someone to a conclusion that this is bad for baseball?
I'm hoping the new schedule will kinda work some of this stuff out next year.
We'll have to see how it works out, but having a Playoff that whittles down to four teams in one division sort of alienates the rest of the league's fans to the postseason, I would think. It's an anomaly to have 4 anyway. Maybe it's just me. I like the match-ups you don't see often in the normal run of the season. Which is also why I'd like a more balanced schedule. But none of this is really part of the discussion here, so let's all just root for a total collapse of the Yanks and then there will only be 3 East teams in anyway.
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50 minutes ago, bluedog said:
Can you imagine a more delicious storyline than the Yanks missing the playoffs entirely because they have the greatest collapse in MLB history, end up 4th in the AL East and are passed by the Orioles who post the greatest single season turn around in MLB history?
Absolutely fantastic. I love when the Yankees fail.
What the league should really notice is how competitive this division is, tho. 3 or potentially 4 teams in the Playoffs from one division is not good for the game, imo. The Yanks falling out completely would be so satisfying!
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I love the teams that have great chemistry. They just seem to be having a lot of fun playing and being around each other. I think Brandon Hyde is doing a fine job and the players just seem to like each other.
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This kind of speculative article tells me two things.
1 - We have desirable players that other teams covet.
2 - Our farm system has players that want to take a chance on.
Reading the tea leaves of what these articles mean in reality to us. We're doing very good. We need to keep to the path, however, and not get bogged down by taking on payroll for teams who are likely entering the kind of rebuild that we are still in the midst of. Trout is one of those. Pass.
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Still one of my favorite cards... The Sam-my, Sam-my chants were great.
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3 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:
Look, I get it. Sometimes you get beat. Sometimes the other pitcher is on top of his game.
But the showing today from the Orioles was pathetic. Pitching to Arozarena with two on and two out was inexcusable. And they had absolutely no plan at the plate against Rasmussen today. Swinging at everything, no patience.
At least Mateo just ruined the perfect game, but still.
You're not wrong... but this is the stretch that matters and there are heightened expectations. Not a good start, for sure. We just went 7-10 in a stretch against crappy teams where some, including me, would have been happy with 5-5. As I said before that one started, this stretch is the one that matters. They gained a little room with the last 10, but this is the one. If they go .50 on this 10 game stretch they are in or .5 out of the WC.
But I get what you're saying. They looked flat. A little flat. It happens. Let's see their bounce-back. They have to be feeling it too.
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Thank goodness. Best place for info and conversation on the O's by far. You've always done a great job with this place, Tony. Glad that it's going to continue!
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16 hours ago, Roll Tide said:
I think the delay is Soto. The losers could have an interest in Mancini as a fallback.
Your ringing endorsement is exactly the reason I don't think it happens. Would we really get any reasonable return if that's the way a buying team sees Trey?
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8 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:
I'm 50/50 on a trade happening. The Mets deal seemed to be imminent, but it looks like it's cooled off. It could come back around. I can easily see him being traded, I can easily see him staying. And if he stays, I wouldn't be upset by it, not in the least.
But just because we've got a good system doesn't mean we shouldn't be looking for lottery tickets. I think that should always be the case no matter where the ML team is and where the system is.
This team is a joy to watch simply because everyone's expectations headed into the season were abysmal. Compared to what a lot of us were thinking in April, yeah, this is a joy to watch. That doesn't mean they're close to contention. There's still a fairly long way to go.
8 hours ago, Ridgway22 said:This.
Right now is a pleasing pile of cherries on top of a generous serving of ice cream over a wide pour of gravy. Smiles all round. But the plan has to remain the plan... We've got to stock the cupboard even though we've had a surprising bounty of green beans from the garden this spring.
I voted no. Not because I think they aren't trying, but more because Trey just doesn't stir the drink. I mean, he is who he is: a great team mate, a sometimes above average hitter, a reliable fielder... but the reasons why we are completely unsure this is going to happen are the reasons other teams are likely still shopping. I don't think how we are playing or the potential of a WC berth would restrain Elias in trading him for the right offer, but there's certainly no urgency to do it.
I kind of think it just fizzles out and hope that that works out in our favor with him and other slumping hitters find their stride to help out on a WC run. It's been fun so far and I'm fine with it remaining that way.
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With Tampa playing the harder schedule during this upcoming stretch, 5-4 would probably be ok, but 6-3 or 7-2 might gain us a little ground. I'm always dubious on the "easy schedule" hopes. The telling stretch is going to be the 10 game stretch from August 8th to 17th. 6 games against the Jays and 3 with TB. Of the 9, 6 are away games with those teams. Winning each of those series would put us in the WC.
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Thanks for posting this article. It's a good read. BTW, I'm all for adopting the Pythgorian Model for calculating wins for the rest of the season.
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My mother saved a lot of Orioles programs and memorabilia from the games she went to with her dad - my Pop. When I was 5-6-7 and just starting to play baseball, I found them in a box in the attic. It was like Christmas morning. I still have them and break them out for my kids. The coolest programs are the ones from the Playoffs and World Series from that era. That 1969 World Series always made me mad too.
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I don't think it's too difficult yet. For me, guys on one or two year deals are up, anyone signed as a flier over the past two years who are doing well, arbitration eligible players. I don't think we are transitioning to the "win now" phase. I think there's another round of gathering prospects and trying to sell off some players like Mancini who maybe aren't part of the long-term plan of the team. As fun as they've been to watch, I think Elias is still in build and acquire mode than trying to make moves to maybe get a Wildcard. But he has to be pleased with what the team is doing right now.
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Seem to have lost the ability to give reactions to posts... Am I missing a setting?
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Let's make this simple... In the 1970's WINS are what won Cy Youngs. But let's go deeper... In 1979, JR "Rodney" Richard won 18 games. Flanny won 23! JR had 2 billion strikeouts to Flannys 190. JR's ERA was .271 and Flanny's was .307. JR had 98 base on balls to Flanny's 70. That's a clinic by today's standards in pitching efficiency on both their parts. Flanny earned that CY and helped take his team to the WS. ...Where I still lament losing to the "We are Family" Pirates, but I digress. JR Richard's Astros finished 2nd in the West and out of the Playoffs.
There's nothing unclear about Mike Flanagan winning the Cy Young that year. He was the clear MVP of a team that made it to the WS. JR Richard - who I loved hearing about on TWIB with Mel Allen, respectfully was a SO, fireballer who was damn exciting to watch and contributed to his pen winning games. It was horrifying to see his career cut short. His Topps card is still one I won't let go of.
The Astros might have been the model that the O's followed under Buck. No 20 game winners, but a bull pen that held and won. Flanny deserved his Cy!
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The beer vendor serving sections 306-312.
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9 hours ago, Tony-OH said:
The Grayson injury is the kick in the nuts after you've been punched in the gut and mouth continually as an Orioles fan. Is it only a delay, sure. But I'm tired of delays. I'm tired of prospects coming up and not performing. Where is a our rookie that comes out the gate like he belongs?
Where are our guys just cruising through the minors like they know they will be productive big leaguers. Henderson? Ok, who else? Stowers? Streaky as all heck but I do like his talent. Hall? Great talent, injury set him back especially command wise. Cowser?? Kjerstad?? lol Even Mayo who looked so amazing last year looks a bit lost in Aberdeen.
Pitching? You want pitching prospects when Elias refuses to draft them? Good luck finding a guy to get excited about after Rajsich's picks.
Elias has had three top 5 #1 picks and has Rutschman, Kjerstad and Cowser to show for it to go along with historically bad losing across baseball since he took over.
How deep is the system? I have a one pitch reliever #15 right now (not including the FCL and DSL guys).
But hey, this team has fight and has come so far!! lol
Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. And yep.
The announcing is the same shtick that we heard from about 1999 thru 2011. "They really look like a team that could make some noise this year." Home town cheerleaders.
Baloney. They still stink.
I jokingly said when this rebuild started that my oldest would be graduating HS before we saw any progress. She starts HS this year. Seems like we're on track. Orioles in 2026, baby! First season to break .500, seems more likely.
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On 5/18/2022 at 1:39 PM, SteveA said:
I used to go to the No Way Jose Cafe, Magerks, Mothers, the Merry Monk (?was that what it was called, across the alley from Now Way Jose, didn't last long?) back in those days. And saw a few shows at 8x10.
Now I pretty much only get down that way if I'm pregaming for the Ravens, maybe at Mothers or Magerks. Haven't been to the new Cross Street Market yet.
When we first started going down there, just up at the end of that street with No Way Jose was a non-descript set of doors. Opening them led you to what used to be a wonderful theatre; really ornate and pitched to the stage. It had been converted to a batting cage... It had about 8-10 zones/ cages. There were a few slow pitch, maybe even a softball, and then a few others ranging from 40-90 mph cages. Tons of fun, especially after a few Stockade Amber Ales at Sissons.
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Sisson's is what got me started down there in the early 90's. First brewpub in the city. Hugh Sisson, now of Heavy Seas, brewed some wonderful house beers that I still lament him not doing in his new digs as a revolving flashback tap. I was lucky enough to take my oldest to the Sushi place in the market before the whole thing closed down. Maybe 2015?? Could have been a little before that.
Anyway, good luck with the book, that was a great area to hang out in back then. We were always there in '97 pre-gaming for the O's. Hope it's the same for the newer gen that's down there now.
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4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
If the O's were to announce that they are going to retire Adam Jones' number you'd be opposed?
Yes, he sealed his fate with his refusal to be traded!
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Mussina never seemed into any of the idolization he had here. To me, he was never a Robinson-esque or Ripken-esque figure. I think some tried to make him that. But Mussina never embraced it and always seemed aloof to me. His signing with the Yankees turned a lot of fans against him, but evidently he succeeded in alienating the guys who decide the retired numbers even more convincingly.
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11 hours ago, tntoriole said:
This is why you trade guys like this. How many times does this organization have to learn this the hard way? Mullins needs to go as soon as he gets hot. Mancini should have gone preCA. But no we will hold and hold till they are worth nothing.
1 hour ago, Frobby said:It’s not SG’s money.
I’d be fine with a statement like “the risk is worth the reward and a bad outcome wouldn’t seriously damage their ability to be competitive in the future.” But to say the contract “wouldn’t hurt them” and has “almost zero downside” is hyperbole. By the way, if I were the O’s, I’d do that contract.
I get offering the contract of 3/13M. It's not terribly costly and altho possibly hyperbole that it wouldn't hurt them and have no downside, what it does is kick the can of whether to deal the guy, if they can - if he recovers, down the road. Which is, sadly, the more telling thing to me if the club does offer such a contract. It signals we aren't close to competing. Which to me is even more ammunition to the conclusion that any reasonable offers on players of ours that are good now should be taken for draft picks and prospects. If he was traded or really on the blocks at all, he would/ should be some other team's concern at this point. He's now useless - potentially - forever to us.
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We can still do it, but this is a real test here. They can't drop any more like the last couple. Seattle staying in meltdown mode is probably our best chance, but we're still gonna need to 7-3 or better. Gonna be tough, but they've shown all year they have the mettle; so let's go O's!