ExileAngelos
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3 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
I thought he was laughing about Norby being a future stud.
Well played, sir.
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Just now, Bemorewins said:
I appreciate you sharing the article and all, and this is no personal slight to you.
Did you not see my laughing and popcorn emojis??
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6 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:
What, the drown the witch method of determining how many pitches a pitcher can handle? Let a guy throw 200 pitches to see if his arm falls off when you let him throw 200 pitches.
Look, I understand wanting to have star pitchers who can throw nine innings all the time. But pitchers used to pace. They knew that if they threw 110% they would break, so they backed it off, and nobody had ever heard of Driveline or wipeout sweepers or anything like that. Many still got hurt. Robin Roberts made a HOF career by throwing mostly decent fastballs, spotting them well. If you throw at 80-90% effort you can throw 300 innings. But good luck on a major league team today throwing 80-90%, even if you're pretty good the pressure to be better by throwing at 110% would be overwhelming. And at 110% you cannot throw nine innings and 130+ pitches on a regular basis, and you will eventually break even at today's workloads.
How about letting him throw well past 100 pitches if he is still effective and not showing any signs of fatigue? Crazy, right? These percentages you have come up with for throwing effort are pure guesses and not remotely quantifiable.
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On 5/26/2024 at 6:56 PM, Hallas said:
I wasn't the genius that made up some time frame where pitchers threw 120 pitches. From 2012-2014 (10-12 years ago) the average pitches/GS was 95, 95, and 93, and games over 120 weren't exactly commonplace; on average fewer than 3 per team per season.
The year Prior stopped pitching coincided with a drastic drop in games started with over 120 pitches; 2007 was the first year that there were fewer than 100 games started with over 120 pitches. As recently as 2003 that number was over 200. So I do stand by what I said re: Prior/Kerry being catalysts for pitcher fatigue/abuse/injury analysis.
here's an article from 1959 about pitcher injuries. 1959.
https://vault.si.com/vault/1959/05/04/the-aching-aching-arms
Gonna make it personal huh? I didn't make anything up. I have watched baseball my entire life and I remember very distinctly and not that long ago that there was a "soft cap" of 120-130 pitches. That is if the starter was throwing a good game of course. That number is now down to 100. We can disagree. Nothing wrong with that. NEITHER of our opinions can really be proven.
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Mustache and full beard? Just mustache? Or current mustache and half beard?
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1 minute ago, Hallas said:
Ever since people did research on pitcher abuse in the wake of Kerry and Prior's arms falling off, 105-110 has been the limit for most pitchers unless they're trying to finish a no-hitter. Prior's been out of the league for almost 20 years now.
LOL everyone brings up Prior as the example. Can you explain a hundred years of "pitcher abuse?" Starters routinely threw over 130 pitches. Oh wait I forgot, They didn't try as hard back then.
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In the old days when they were more irresponsible with pitch counts and pitchers were getting hurt all the time, we wouldn't have to worry about our bullpen and Bradish would have finished off this gem.
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Just now, Malike said:
I'm talking specifically about Bradish. I think if he were completely healthy he'd probably get the 8th.
And I am saying that if it was any other pitcher there would be two headlines. First the no hitter. And the other how reckless it was that a starter was allowed to throw 125 pitches.
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Just now, Jagwar said:
Yes, but that was the 80s
Negative... Was within the last ten years.
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1 minute ago, Malike said:
Is his pitch count reasonable for a guy coming off a UCL strain and PRP shot that made him miss spring training and a month of the season? Would you throw him 20 more pitches in a game that means nothing in May?
Come on man, you know this scenario would be the same no matter who was throwing.
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Just now, Jagwar said:
Awesome outing for Bradish. Have to think it's hard to go beyond 7 when you don't get early contact. I'll take it.
You mean it's hard to go beyond 7 in the way modern day pitchers are treated. His pitch count is very reasonable. It wasn't that long ago that starters threw more than 120 pitches before there was any concern.
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Not all that long ago we'd all be excited about Bradish pitching a no hitter. But we all know he'll get pulled around a hundred pitches. Meanwhile more pitchers get hurt no than ever before lol. I'll never understand it.
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Good job Suarez! Next man up.
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That's how it's done.
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LOL first pitch again.
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Make that three professional at bats.
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O'Hearn is giving you a professional at bat, Roy.
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"Looked at the wild card standings." LOL It is May. I barely look at the division standings this time of year.
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On 5/22/2024 at 10:04 AM, MCO'sFan said:
. I didn't like Mel Proctor
Surely, you can't be serious.
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It was an 0-2 count. Umps are biased against calling strikes in that count just like the tend to call strikes on 3-0 counts. Both nonsense of course.
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23 hours ago, Orioles0615 said:
The streak ended in the fall, people need to stop with the stupid streak
22 hours ago, potota_bread said:No, that was the playoffs. This streak is for the regular season. No one has to stop with it because you are crying about it. It will end when the regular season streak ends.
It is a regular season streak. But I take no joy in celebrating it. It rings hollow for me. A reminder of the time we actually WERE swept and it happened when it mattered the most.
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So if we get rained out again does it mean our sweepless streak is over? What if we play and lose? We only played 2 of the 3 scheduled games of the series. Hmmmmmm
The game I grew up with...
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I wasn't referring to Bradish at all, I was talking about how pitchers are treated in the modern game.