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    Santander is back!

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    On 8/17/2020 at 10:13 AM, Can_of_corn said:

    Dan did, at the very least, skirt some rules with Santander.  That was some pretty questionable maneuvering going on.

    Seems to have worked out well for the O's in the end.

    You gotta do what you gotta do when you select an A+ guy. I don’t think anybody expected him to  stick. 

    If Orioles start trading, what are some realistic return expectations?

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    35 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:

    So ...if he had played in college would we be counting his NCAA stats? 
     

    I have no interest in counting stats from a player between 17-21. Especially Latino players

    Fine he has a 664 OPS in AAA, age 22 plus. 

    People don’t often do better in the majors than they do in the minors. Ignoring minor league stats isn’t the best practice IMO. 
     

    And weren’t you using college stats to complain about our draft picks, and how BA in college couldn’t translate to the pros and whatnot?

    Iglesias to IL, Urias promoted

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    Just now, Can_of_corn said:

    We can infer by the moves being made by other teams that they think the cutoff date has been reached.

    That’s fair and likely so. We can also infer that the O’s, whether it’s Elias or ownership, are conservative re: service time issues. 

    Iglesias to IL, Urias promoted

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    20 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

    Could the GM know something we don’t about service time.  This week so far Mize Skubal came up with Tigers today.  The Braves are calling up Christian Pache as well.  That is 3 top 100 guys just today.  Maybe just looking into it to much with why delay on Mountcastle but bit odd three guys in one day.

     

    There’s not really anything extra to know, the only service time thing at issue right now is super 2 status, and that depends on where you rank on the service time list years in the future. It’s pretty hard to predict in the present, other than know where you are historically. We are right around the normal historical cut off, but this year (and maybe next year) will likely be weird and cause things to differ from the historical norms. Not to mention we don’t know if the new CBA will even include this. 

    No more argument to play Chris Davis

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    39 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    If you were to say to me, Can, I'll pay you 38M to retire at 34.  Or you can get 46M and spend two years dealing with the physical and emotional pressures of sitting at the end of the bench.

    If it were me, I'd take the 38M and be done with it.  Especially if I'd already earned more than 140M.

    Players have accepted buyouts before, heck some have walked away leaving money on the table.

    Agreed. Presumably he could walk away today with a large percentage (maybe 80%) of his pay, have more money than anybody would ever need, and just not have to deal with it anymore. It has to be a mental struggle failing so much in something where you were once one of the best in the world, being asked about it all the time by reporters, etc. This is why I was never really in favor of outright cutting him since it always seemed reasonable that eventually he'd accept some sort of buyout and the roster spot didn't seem that critical the past few years. It would have helped IMO if we'd simply benched him for the most part like his performance dictated. But the closer we get to the end of the contract the less likely that gets, and the better the O's prospects get the more important the roster spot...

    At the same time he's a Boras guy, which seems to say IMO that money matters a lot to him. And on the other hand, he's a pretty charitable guy it seems, and he might feel it's worthwhile to be able to send all those dollars where he wants, rather than where the Angelos family wants. So there are many things possibly at play.

    But yeah, it would be totally reasonable for him to leave tonight with an agreement to blow off like 8-20M of what he's owed, it wouldn't surprise me at all even if it's not that likely. But as you said later we don't even know if ownership would be on board with that...

    Keegan Akin’s debut

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    6 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    You can have a guy in the bullpen that is there to get left handers out.  You just have to be more precise in using them.

    Yeah, it’s fine if he’s great vs LH and ok vs RH. It’s just harder to use a guy now if he’s great vs LH and awful vs RH. 

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    Keegan Akin’s debut

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    1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:

    Obviously we are talking about an extremely small sample size and things can change.  This was just first opinion stuff.  I'm not going to go out there and say he has no chance to be a viable starting pitcher based off of last night.

    Also you have to keep in mind I'm in favor of limiting pitchers times through the order as a general policy.

    That’s a good policy in general. Especially if you’re going to carry around 19 pitchers on the roster. 

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    Keegan Akin’s debut

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    9 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:

    I'd use him as an opener.

    I didn't see the velocity jump that makes me want to put him into high leverage situations. 

    I'd be fine using him in two or three inning stints.

    From the little I've seen I'd use him more than Hyde has.

    That’s fair. I‘m hoping deception/spin make up for some velocity. I had higher hopes than I was reading I this thread, basically a lefty Hess, and it seemed like some too quick decision making. I’d certainly like to see him get plenty of innings the rest of the year to see more of what we’ve got.  

    Keegan Akin’s debut

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    I'm not really an optimist usually, but it's weird to me that for some of you it only took 3 innings to peg this guy as basically one of the last guys in the bullpen on a 2nd division team. I'm glad I didn't get to watch last night!

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    Ongoing Lineup Thread, 2020

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    46 minutes ago, Dipper9 said:

    Yeah, its 5pm.  (I had to look really hard to find it though.)

     

    So, in a season of "firsts," has there ever in the history of baseball been a team sweep two 3-game series in back to back days?  Because that's a real possibility today.  

    Something that surely hasn't happened in forever--Strasburg will have two starts today. And hopefully two Ls.

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    Roadmap to Contention 2020

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    9 hours ago, Bubble Buddy said:

    And then I think there’s a difference with the guys acquired to supplement the core. Chris Davis, Jason Hammel, JJ Hardy, Tommy Hunter, DOD, McLouth and Mark Reynolds are different than what we have this year. None of those guys had been sent down to the minors or outright released. All of them had some level of a major league track record or minor league pedigree, and they were acquired in trades. 

    Plus the core of Wieters, Machado, Jones, Markakis, Hardy, Jim Johnson, etc.

    What was kind of crazy about that team to me was none of the “cavalry” had hit at that point. Hammel and Chen were huge. 
     

    O’Day was a waiver claim. McLouth was signed after being released. Hardy was traded for Carlos Gomez then a year later we got him for Jim Hoey and Brett Jacobson. Davis was 25 when traded and probably where Stewart is now, on the verge of being a failed prospect. Tommy Hunter was nobody. Miguel Gonzalez came out of the Mexican league. Machado was a highly rated rookie who couldn’t even dominate AA. Jim Johnson was Mychal Givens without the strikeouts. Buck didn’t trust Tillman for the playoffs. I’ll grant you Jones, Markakis, and Wieters are more established than anything this year outside Iglesias, but these weren’t exactly the ‘27 Yankees. 

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    Tony-OH on Vinny & Haynie (105.7)

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    Just now, Can_of_corn said:

    I don't know how you can grade framing this season with as erratic as the umps have been.  What's your baseline for what is a strike?

    I almost added something about that. Does the catcher get credit when the ump just decides to start calling strikes 6 inches off? And blame when a ball is called middle of the zone? 

    Why Can't the Orioles Develop Starting Pitchers?

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    2 hours ago, wildbillhiccup said:

    I feel like some of you are focusing on too much on Bundy. I wasn't advocating keeping Bundy, I was asking do pitcher inherently become better when they leave our organization? It's a distinct pattern that we've seen with SPs and RPs. We must be doing something wrong. 

    How many people is a pattern? One?

    Like Moose said, I thought Arrieta was pretty much established to be a Rick Adair problem, and trying to force him to do things that weren't his strength/comfort zone. I don't think the current org has anything to do with those kind of problems.

    Matusz seemed to develop just fine in the minors, then he just hit a wall in the majors for whatever reason. Whether that was Adair or TTTP or hubris or he just wasn't good enough, well a lot of people just aren't good enough. 

    Bundy, who knows, he's had a good few starts. Maybe he'll keep it up. Or maybe he'll be like Gausman, who had 6 good starts after he was traded, and has been pretty much the Gausman we know after that.

    Yeah, we haven't developed much. But from 2010-17, here are the top 5 round pitchers we've drafted:

    2010 Dan Klein (injured)

    2011 Bundy, Mike Wright, Kyle Simon (traded in 2012 and never did anything), Matt Taylor (never got past Frederick)

    2012 Gausman, Branden Kline, Poche (didn't sign)

    2013 Harvey, Stephen Tarpley (traded, ERA over 5 in majors so far)

    2014 Brian Gonzalez, Connaughton (NBA), Hess

    2015 Hughes (didn't sign), Cleavinger (traded to PHI in 2017 hasn't gone above AA)

    2016 Sedlock, Akin, Dietz, Hannifee (still some hope there)

    2017 DL Hall, Lowther, Baumann (still some hope there)

    Not a great record, but the misfortune of Bundy and Harvey's many injuries really hurt--both have seemed to "develop" alright, just maybe couldn't reach their full potential. I don't know how much better we could have expected overall given most pitchers won't make it anyway. It helps when you get lucky with some lower round picks like Bedard or Means or (yuck) Davies or Hader.

    And as others have said, it's hard to blame the current regime for the failures of the past.

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    The most exciting 15.7 seconds in years

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    4 minutes ago, Number5 said:

    Mental mistakes aren't officially scored as errors.  The physical is scored, not the mental.  Was it foolish?  Yes, but you're just not going to see those plays scored as errors.

    Yeah, Rule 9.12(a)(1)  Comment reads, in part

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    The official scorer shall not score mental mistakes or misjudgments as errors unless a specific rule prescribes otherwise. A fielder’s mental mistake that leads to a physical misplay— such as throwing the ball into the stands or rolling the ball to the pitcher’s mound, mistakenly believing there to be three outs, and thereby allowing a runner or runners to advance— shall not be considered a mental mistake for purposes of this rule and the official scorer shall charge a fielder committing such a mistake with an error. The official scorer shall not charge an error if the pitcher fails to cover first base on a play, thereby allowing a batter-runner to reach first base safely. The official scorer shall not charge an error to a fielder who incor- rectly throws to the wrong base on a play.

    I guess if you want to change the official rules that's fine, but I don't really care. It's fine the way it is IMO.

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    It's time for the OH to turn the page

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    19 minutes ago, Gatoriole said:

    What do you think "backing into the playoffs" means? The 2014 Orioles are curious.

    They were only 4-6 in their last ten games? So what that they’d already clinched the division by then, if they’d gotten to 100 wins they’d have been much more confident in the ALCS. 

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    Akin promoted, Mullins optioned

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    3 minutes ago, Philip said:

    Did I say I did? Read it again. The human element, including that from the umpires, is important, and I can live with a 90-95% accuracy rate from the umps in order to keep that.

    I neither said directly, nor implied that I “preferred bad calls.” Watch what you say.

    You are saying you prefer human. I assume the tech is good enough that human is necessarily less accurate than electronic. So yes, you prefer having bad calls because it’s human. No other way to spin it. 

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