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I am confused as to why someone would say he is old for his level. He just turned 22 on 4/30/18! That is not old for High A.
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9 hours ago, atomic said:
Why would they sign for so little? Even if they held out for 75k the Orioles would pay as they still would be under-slot.
Because that is what they agreed to before the Orioles picked them. What if I agreed to do a job for $50K a year during the interview process and when I showed up to do the final paperwork to get me hired, I demanded $75K? Would the employer want to hire me? I doubt it. Even if they did, it would leave a sour taste in their mouth that would likely impact my employment at some point. This is very similar. As was said earlier, they are senior signs whose talent merits being drafted much later. The Orioles draft them earlier so they can use the difference between the slot money and the bonus money to go over slot with other draftees.
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1 hour ago, phillyOs119 said:
He was talking about the minor league phase of the rule 5 draft, not the major league portion. I'm sure they protect him at that level (which doesn't require addition to the 40 man). The rules are different for the minor league phase.
That is what I was talking about. Teams are limited as to how many players they can place on the Triple A reserve roster (which protects them from the Triple A phase of the Rule V draft) and how many players they can place on the Double A roster (which protects them from the Double A phase of the Rule V draft). I believe it should not be totally unexpected for the Orioles to not place him on the Triple A reserve roster and therefore risk losing him in the Triple A phase of the Rule V draft. We will see. I for one will not be completely shocked if the Orioles end up losing Connaughton in the minor league phase of the rule V draft at some point.
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27 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
I don't think he is accumulating service time.
It is not a matter of service time. All players who were drafted and signed in the 2014 MLB draft who were 19 years or older are eligible for the Rule V draft (major and minor league). Connaughton is definitely eligible for the rule V draft this year.
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The question for me is if the Orioles protect Connaughton from the minor league Rule V drafts or not. Each team is only allowed to protect so many players on the Triple A and Double A rosters. If they are not protected, then players can be drafted in the minor league phase and they do not have to be returned to the original team no matter what level they play at or if they play at all. Russell Wilson, the Seahawks QB, was originally drafted and signed in baseball by the Colorado Rockies in the 4th round of the 2010 draft. He played a couple seasons for them in the minors and then was drafted into the NFL in 2012. The Rangers drafted him in the minor league rule V draft in 2013 (costing them $12,000). He never played for the Rangers but it shows it does happen.
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21 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:
I asked Baseball America and didn't get a reply.
Anyone think that Hays had the fastest trip to the majors of any third round pick?
I think he should be in for position players, I wouldn't be shocked if a bullpen guy taken in the third round might have had a quicker trip.
John Olerud was drafted in the 3rd round in 1989 and debuted on September 3, 1989. He was a first round talent that was drafted in the 3rd round because he had a brain aneurysm and missed part of the season. Other teams assumed he was going to return to Washington State for his senior year. I believe he never played in the minors.
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14 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
Not true, they save $409,000.
Yes, so they can invest it in international scouting.
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29 minutes ago, hoosiers said:
I like Conlon's profile a lot and, if he takes up the remaining pool, that's what it takes. Adding two quality HS pitchers into our system would be nice. Still, we should have back-up plans in place in case this doesn't get done with guys like Jones and we'll get the 5th round pick back next year.
If they do not sign Conlon, they do not get a comp pick next year. They get nothing.
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45 minutes ago, Riggodrill44 said:
There's has to be a better way. Draft HS kids, tough signs because of school commits. Knowing that unless someone in the top ten(10) doesn't sign your not signing them. The draft should be about talent, not about signing guys that will sign for food money.
Signability will always be a factor unless/until teams are allowed to have players go to school and still retain their draft rights (like the NHL).
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Looks like he is going to sign according to his Twitter.
https://twitter.com/jcon1744?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author
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11 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:
You have to be a redshirt sophomore to be eligible. 3 years of NCAA D1 to be eligible. I don't think many guys leave a powerhouse like FSU to go to JUCO.
He might take overslot to sign but he's not as hard as we are thinking. Unless he has Boras or something.
A true freshman at a 4 year college can be draft eligible if he turns 21 within 45 days of the draft. It has happened before. Chris Dwyer was a true freshman at Clemson in 2009 and was drafted in the 4th round by Kansas City that year. I believe that he graduated high school at 19, attended prep school for a year and then went to Clemson.He was 21 at the time of the draft.
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Per this article, a player on the restricted list for an entire season does not accrue time toward minor league free agency:
http://www.thecubreporter.com/book/export/html/3506
MLB RULE 55: Sometimes called a "Six-Year Minor League Free-Agent," an unsigned minor league player is automatically declared a free-agent at 5 PM (Eastern) on the 5th day after the final game of the World Series if the player has had his first contract renewed six times and has spent all or any part of at least seven separate seasons on a minor league roster (including all or parts of any season spent on Optional Assignment to the minors), and/or if the player has been previously released or non-tendered in his career and his present contract (known as a "second contract" even if it's his third or fourth minor league contract) has expired. For purposes of determining eligibility to be a free-agent, a player does not accrue a minor league season if the player spends the entire season on an MLB Active List, MLB Disabled List(s), and/or other MLB Inactive List, or if the player spends an entire season on the Restricted List, Disqualified List, Suspended List, Ineligible List, Voluntarily Retired List, and/or Military List.
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I hope Alvarado has a great major league career. I am not sure how hard he throws. When I think of a player that had pitchability and excelled in the minors with great K and WHIP numbers I think of this guy: http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/stephjo03.shtml
He was a top international prospect when the O's signed him in 1996 and was a hard thrower. He suffered a neck injury fielding a bunt in 1998. After that his fastball clocked at top speeds of 82 to 86 MPH. Did not stop him from excelling in the minors. Never did much in the Majors though. Check out his stats from 1999 217 K's, 170.1 innings, 36 walks, WHIP of 1.080
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Yeah, I think his "advisor" would have urged him to sign because that's how they get paid.
His "advisor" may think that he will get a bigger bonus in 3 years, so his "advisor" most definitely could have advised him not to sign. Good agents are those that have the best long term interests of their client in mind and are not in it for the quick buck. That is how they retain clients and gain more.
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Roughly 36K for residents, 93K for non-residents.
Very, Very few college baseball players get full athletic scholarships. Teams are limited to offering 11.7 scholarships for the whole team-probably 30 or so players, so he may be having to foot some of the bill himself. It is also possible that other scholarships may be able to make up some or all of the difference. Georgia does offer the lottery funded HOPE scholarship for students that have good grades in high school and maintain those grades in college. There is a decent chance that he will not be going to college completely free, however.
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I only have this to fall back on. He told the press he is signing and reporting to Florida. That's all I've got.
Reading that, the only possibilities that makes for a reason why he has not signed yet is that there is and injury concern(post physical) or he has upped his price, in which case the Orioles should definitely pass.
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They fired Ron Hopkins, who came from the Texas Rangers. I don't think they fired the scout in charge of Texas.
You are right. It was still odd timing and I still wonder if one had anything to do with the other, although they may be completely unrelated. Ron Hopkins was a National Crosschecker for the Orioles. National Crosscheckers are involved with amateur scouting, correct?
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Didn't the Orioles fire their amateur scout that was in charge of Texas shortly after the draft? I do recall at the time wondering if it had anything to do with Poche. Looks like it might have.
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Really he is not old for a prospect at that level. If he goes to AA next year, he would likely make his MLB debut sometime in 2020. 24 years old for a rookie is about what I would expect for a well regarded draft pick out of a 4 year college who was drafted and signed after his Junior year. He very well might make his MLB debut next year.