Reboulet'sStache

From the day it was announced to today, at no point was this not a horrible trade.

He may end up getting lit up and then never heard from again. But it's clear that he was viewed as a just add water ready piece to add to a major league rotation, and the fact that we traded him for a rental who wasn't going to make a difference, is just a horrible of limited resources. Trade all of our prospects for all I care, but not for these kinds of returns.

It was just a horrible, indefensible trade the second it was announced.

Are you serious? Read what you are writing. Read your post under this one. You're saying that, when he hits the open market, another team will outbid the O's, meaning that is his actual market price. Which means, if he agrees to forgo the open market and sign during the window, he is throwing away millions of dollars, because now the " big market team" can't "go over market value to pull him away." The poster was asking you why he would be willing to do that, and you said because he likes Baltimore.

So two months in Baltimore is going to make him throw away millions of dollars so sign below market value? The crab cakes are good, but I'm not sure they are THAT good.

Free Agency is not some great mystery. He isn't signing for anything that isn't near his market value during the negotiating window.

You could sign him in the off-season without trading for him. Trading Davies had nothing to do with signing him. The trade was only so you can get him for 2 months.

Hate the trade. DD is really going to need to be a mad genius the next few years for us to have a chance to compete going forward.

I remember that. I think Belle ended up doubling into the gap to clear the bases. And yeah, it was because Belle refused to take the base.

EdRod I was vehemently against the second it was announced. Arrieta I was overjoyed the second it was announced. I was so sick of Jake I never wanted to see him again. But it it concerning that he got so good after leaving us.

I'm a big OBP guy. I think it best correlates to offensive production. But Nick had so many other things working against him at the plate, that he just isn't very productive. He has no power, and can't move around the bases. So it doesn't matter how high his OBP gets (within reason), he isn't going to correlate to a very good offensive player. Look at him right now: .390 OBP, .2 oWAR. If you just focused on the OBP, which I think some people have been trained to do, you'd get out your checkbook to pay for that.

This is where fans got too wrapped up in OBP. Instead of being the means that best correlated to a desirable end, it became the desirable end.

I don't either.

But how much money is Miller likely to sign for, and can the Orioles really afford to invest that much in a bullpen arm? I'm not sure we are the type of team that can afford to pay market prices for the bullpen.

Don't think so. Law has been a huge supporter of ERod, and nobody is higher on Harvey than Law.