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Seems to be to show the fastball outside the zone every once in a while, then throw off speed crap and let them flail away…
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Don't know much about him but the 20 yr old Venezuelan has 9 K's in 3 IP tonight.
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1 minute ago, dystopia said:The fact is, none of us are doctors (or at least most of us) and we don’t know the extent of the injury. We can be fairly confident it’s minor since he’s pitching, or at least minor as far a UCL is concerned.
Doctor here. The medical literature distinguishes between partial and complete tears, and whether the tear is proximal or distal. We don't know the extent of the injury. There is medical literature that supports efforts to rehab partial proximal tears. There is data that PRP injections, rest, and throwing program can help pitchers return to competition and avoid TJ surgery if the injury is partial and proxmial. So, I'm guessing that's what his injury is. Some of these pitchers can return to pitching successfully while others fail this approach and require TJ.
Either way, I wish him the best!
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Just now, DocJJ said:
'92 was a strange year. Chris Hoiles hit 20 HR but only drove in 40 RBI. I wonder if that's a record for fewest RBI in a 20 HR season? Seems that would be almost impossible to beat....!?
I just checked and that is, in fact, the record!
Amazingly Orioles 3B Wayne Gross hit 11 HR in 1985 and drove in 18 RBI's. That's just as amazing/depressing...
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25 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
Hard to top 1992. Sutcliffe complete game shutout at the new park. People forget, but that 1992 team was surprisingly good after the dud squad of 1991. That Opening Day was a tone setter.
This one was really good. It’s neck and neck for me.
'92 was a strange year. Chris Hoiles hit 20 HR but only drove in 40 RBI. I wonder if that's a record for fewest RBI in a 20 HR season? Seems that would be almost impossible to beat....!?
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Just now, Warehouse said:
ZIPS 2024 OPS projections vs. LHP suggest Mateo. We don’t have great options here.
Mateo - .693
McCann - .685
O’Hearn - .676
Kemp - .676
Cowser - .675
Good lord this is awful....
I know my strategy facing the Orioles- throw as many lefties as I can... This is terrible. Can we use Santander at DH and stick someone in the outfield? Or did he not hit lefties well last year?
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If we have to use Adley at catcher:
McAnn? Westburg? Urias? Mountcastle? (put Westburg/Urias at 1B?)
It's a good question. We have too many lefties. We also have too much "dead wood"- Mateo, Urias, Kemp (why on earth is he on the team?)
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1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:
Definitely ashamed for Pinto. Hernandez is a non prospect anyways at this point and Crampton was decent defensive SS minor league depth. Pretty strange to see non pitchers need Tommy John. He must've really let lose on a throw.
I generally get annoyed at Grammar police on these boards... but when I read this post I initially thought Pinto had done something publicly embarrassing! (The sentence should read "Definitely a shame for Pinto")
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The woman who tried to pursue the legal case clearly was up to no good. There is video showing her smiling and unharmed after the supposed assault took place. She referred to Bauer as "her next victim" in texts- clearly trying to exploit his fame and fortune.
I've never met Bauer or spoken with him. By many people's accounts he's a jerk, opinionated, narcissistic, and could potentially disrupt a clubhouse. I want his pitching for the Orioles, I don't want him for the Orioles....
If I were a last place team, I'd sign him and flip him for good prospects. That's a cheap deal for a top pitcher and as the season wears on and teams suffer casualties, someone will need him and give up prospects for him...
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4 minutes ago, Jammer7 said:
Not true.
Agree. Not true. Someone will sign him. I think if Gerritt Cole's injury shelves him for a bit, the Yankees might roll the dice...
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Did anyone see his 3 inning exhibition? Hit 99 MPH three times in the first inning. Splitter looked unhittable. I hear he's a complete jerk, but the stuff is TOR stuff...
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by trade or FA signing....
I think we must add one. Injuries happen. Even if a pitcher is lucky enough to avoid a serious injury, there are always tweaks and minor things that cause starters to miss a start here and there, even things like finger blisters. Second, beyond Wells and Irwin there aren't any starters with track records. We'd be forced to go with Zimmerman, Povich, McDermott, or Seth Johnson....
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Changing my vote. Bauer (aside from all of the off the field baggage) pitched only ok in the Japanese league but wasn't totally dominant.... Changing my vote to Blake Snell! Who is also a pipe dream....
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1 hour ago, Orioles5258 said:
January:
We want Basallo, Norby and Cowser for Luzardo
February:
Hey we just read that Kyle Bradish has a UCL injury
We now want Basallo, Norby, Cowser and Kjrestad for Luzardo
yea i dont think it works like thatI think it does.
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Trevor Bauer (I duck at all the rotten tomatoes thrown at me)
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Just now, DocJJ said:
Did they say whether Bradish's injury is distal or proximal? Proximal UCL injury can heal without surgery. Distal almost always results in surgery.
I must admit, compare the following 2 rotations:
Burnes, Bradish, Rodriguez, Means, Kremer
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Burnes, Rodriguez, Kremer, Wells, Irvin.
I'd give the first an A. The second a C+. Ouch.
I'd sign Ryu to a one year prove-it deal. Then I'd hope and pray. If you sign Montgomery or Snell to a 8 year deal, you'll pay outrageous sums for 5 years of non-pitching...
Or I'd sign Bauer to a 1 year prove-it deal, but with contract clauses that he can't give any interviews and he must stay off of all social media...
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Did they say whether Bradish's injury is distal or proximal? Proximal UCL injury can heal without surgery. Distal almost always results in surgery.
I must admit, compare the following 2 rotations:
Burnes, Bradish, Rodriguez, Means, Kremer
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Burnes, Rodriguez, Kremer, Wells, Irvin.
I'd give the first an A. The second a C+. Ouch.
I'd sign Ryu to a one year prove-it deal. Then I'd hope and pray. If you sign Montgomery or Snell to a 8 year deal, you'll pay outrageous sums for 5 years of non-pitching...
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I've long suspected God hates the Orioles....
...Now I have proof....
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Just curious to see how their list compares to Tony's....
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Add Snell!!!!
Rotation:
Snell
Burnes
Bradish
Rodriguez
Means
I smell a World Champion!
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1. Bradish
2. Rodriguez
3. Means
4. Kremer
5. best of Irvin/Hall/Wells/Povich/McDermott/Johnson/Zimmerman????
Yikes... definitely need another starter. Just hope we don't have to give up too many prospects.....!
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I'm somewhat surprised that there hasn't been more outrage over this. A championship caliber team just added the best hitter and best pitcher available for $1 billion. Yes, I know that is no guarantee of a World Series title....
I never harbored any hope that the Orioles would be in on expensive free agents of that magnitude. But this has gone from ridiculous to outright insanity. MLB is all smiles as the big market teams will do well and generate revenues for MLB. MLB does not care at all about parity, competitive spirit, even competition, ticket prices that fans have to pay, and MLB certainly does not care about any teams outside of NY, California, or Texas.
Greed is ruining this sport entirely. Greed among the owners and among the players. It's becoming almost impossible to enjoy the game at this point...
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Observations from tonight's blowout
in Orioles Talk
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Wells looked pretty bad. I thought he threw harder. His fastball was 91-92. He hung a few sliders and got torched. I saw his other start was pretty good, so I don't know if he just had an off night, or if he is as bad as he looked tonight. But he did not look like a capable MLB starter tonight. If he and Irvin continue to stink, we have real problems because I don't know who else can start? We may see Means again at some point, I hope, but this is the most glaring problem right now...
Heasley looked beyond bad. He may have pitched himself out of the MLB tonight. That's too bad....
The Brewers pitcher looked really good. 96 MPH heat and his slider had every single Oriole fooled all night long. 11 Ks I think... and it sucked to see Joey Ortiz nail 3 hits off us.... (although we have Corbin Burnes, so I guess that's good.)
Cowser is the only guy hitting for the O's right now. Boy- he's locked in. Confident. Solid contact. I hate the "Moo-ing" but I think we're stuck with it... The rest of the team is collectively struggling at the dish. Hays looks totally lost. Westburg and Henderson are hitting .200 (although with occasional well-timed home runs). Sadly, Holliday looks completely overwhelmed... I sat next to his dad tonight. That had to be tough to watch.
Hitting is always streaky and I think some guys may heat up. The starting pitching has me concerned. After Burnes and Rodriguez, I don' think we have enough...