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4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
When you are talking about metropolitan areas with two teams might it not be fair to account for the presence of another team?....
Why not? MLB uses the size of metropolitan area (regardless of the number of teams in that area) as one of the criteria for eligibility for a competitive balance draft pick.
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The number of posts relating to MLB team attendance on my ODP Payroll post See opening ODP post caused me to cogitate on perspectives as to relative and relevant attendance numbers. So, I assembled this chart:
Team Metropolitan Area 2018 Estimated Population1 2019 Attendance2 Attendance Per Capita % of Capacity Mileage to Nearest Different MLB Stadium3 New York (NYY) 19.98 M 3.30 M 0.17 75.2% 9 New York (NYM) 19.98 M 2.44 M 0.12 71.9% 9 Los Angeles (LAA) 13.29 M 3.02 M 0.23 82.7% 31 Los Angeles (LAD) 13.29 M 3.97 M 0.30 87.6% 31 Chicago (CWS) 9.50 M 1.65 M 0.17 50.1% 10 Chicago (CHC) 9.50 M 3.09 M 0.33 91.7% 10 Texas (TEX) 7.54 M 2.13 M 0.28 54.7% 257 Houston (HOU) 7.00 M 2.86 M 0.41 86.0% 257 Washington (WSH) 6.25 M 2.26 M 0.36 67.4% 38 Miami (MIA) 6.20 M .81 M 0.13 27.3% 266 Philadelphia (PHI) 6.10 M 2.73 M 0.45 77.1% 100 Toronto (TOR) 6.08 M 1.75 M 0.29 43.8% 230 Atlanta (ATL) 5.95 M 2.66 M 0.45 79.7% 449 Boston (BOS) 4.88 M 2.92 M 0.60 95.1% 204 Arizona (ARI) 4.86 M 2.14 M 0.44 54.2% 356 San Francisco (SF) 4.73 M 2.71 M 0.57 79.8% 17 Oakland (OAK) 4.73 M 1.66 M 0.35 43.5% 17 Detroit (DET) 4.33 M 1.50 M 0.35 44.5% 168 Seattle (SEA) 3.94 M 1.79 M 0.45 46.6% 807 Minnesota (MIN) 3.63 M 2.29 M 0.63 73.3% 334 San Diego (SD) 3.34 M 2.40 M 0.72 69.6% 95 Tampa Bay (TB) 3.14 M 1.18 M 0.38 58.2% 266 Colorado (COL) 2.93 M 2.99 M 1.02 74.7% 609 St. Louis (STL) 2.81 M 3.48 M 1.24 91.7% 242 Baltimore (BAL) 2.80 M 1.31 M 0.47 35.1% 38 Pittsburgh (PIT) 2.32 M 1.49 M 0.64 48.0% 134 Cincinnati (CIN) 2.19 M 1.81 M 0.83 52.8% 250 Kansas City (KC) 2.14 M 1.48 M 0.69 48.2% 242 Cleveland (CLE) 2.06 M 1.74 M 0.85 61.3% 134 Milwaukee (MIL) 1.58 M 2.92 M 1.85 86.1% 91 1 https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-kits/2019/metro-county-pop-estimates.html
https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/20402/toronto/population
2 https://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2019-misc.shtml3 https://bitbucket.org/trhdata/mlb-stadiums/downloads/
Here are some of my takeaways as to the O's attendance in 2019:
Baltimore's Metropolitan area size ranked 25th, just a hair behind St. Louis. The 10 lowest-revenue clubs and the clubs from the 10 smallest markets are eligible to receive a Competitive Balance pick (fewer than 20 clubs are in the mix each year, as some clubs qualify under both criteria).
O's ranked 28th in total attendance, ahead of Tampa Bay and Miami.
O's ranked 12th in per capita attendance, a bit ahead of the Mariners, the Phillies and the Braves.
P.S.
3 teams' season attendance exceeded their metropolitan area population - Brewers, Cardinals, and Rockies.In per capita attendance, Yankees ranked 28th and Mets ranked last.
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Updated the roster projection to reflect the José Iglesias signing.
See opening postProjected 2020 Opening Day Payroll (ODP) is at $63.76M. Last year's ODP was $82.12M.
Reminder -- my rule for the ODP for the 26 Man Roster -- only players on the 40 Man Roster.
The 40 Man is full.
Davis accounts for 36% of the current ODP, Cobb 22%.
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3 hours ago, Philip said:
That’s what I thought, but wouldn’t that be true of anybody? Anybody who is in the minor leagues gets minor-league pay, except when they’re in the major leagues, when they get major league pay.
The only difference I see is that league minimum is 575K or so and this is 800 K, which on a per game basis isn’t that much different.
Though Stewart's is a "split-contract", it is still a MLB contract and as such is governed by the MLB Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA). The CBA contains minimum salary requirements for players on the 40 Man Roster. I've excerpted the relevant provisions below. Of course, Stewart may have successfully negotiated a minor league salary greater than the minimum.
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Here's the provision pertinent to Stewart:
"....(2) For all Players (a) signing a second Major League contract (not covering the same season as any such Player’s initial Major League contract) or a subsequent Major League contract, or (b) who
have at least one day of Major League service, the minimum salary shall be as follows:
(i) for Major League service—at a rate not less than the Major League minimum salary;
(ii) for Minor League service—at a rate not less than the following:
2019—at the rate per season of $90,400;
2020—at the 2019 rate per season plus a cost of living adjustment, rounded to the nearest $100, provided that the cost of living adjustment shall not reduce the minimum salary below $90,400...."
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FYI --:
"....(3) For all Players signing a first Major League contract, the minimum salary for Minor League service shall be as follows:
2019—at the rate per season of $45,300;
2020—at the 2019 rate per season plus a cost of living adjustment, rounded to the nearest $100, provided that the cost of living adjustment shall not reduce the minimum salary below $45,300...." -
1 hour ago, wildcard said:
Frederick Keys ....
Here are the minor league roster limitation rules for all Major League Baseball-affiliated minor league teams:
Triple-A and Double-A teams are limited to 25-man rosters.
Class A-Advanced and Class A teams are limited to 35 players under control with additional limitations in regard to prior minor league experience.
Teams at lower levels have 35-man active rosters with limitations on minor league service time.
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Given these roster size limitations, players were left unprotected for the Minor League portion of the Rule 5 draft.-
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21 hours ago, wildbillhiccup said:
....Payroll - https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/baltimore-orioles/payroll/ (2020 Total Payroll $43,533,782).
This projection does not reflect the projected pre-arbitration players on the 26 Man Roster. My current ODP is $61.09M
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Updated the roster projection to reflect the Rule 5 draftees.
See opening postProjected 2020 Opening Day Payroll (ODP) is at $61.09M. Last year's ODP was $82.12M.
Reminder -- my rule for the ODP for the 26 Man Roster -- only players on the 40 Man Roster.
The 40 Man is now full.
Davis accounts for 37.6% of the current ODP, Cobb 22.9%.
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Updated the ODP projection for the 2020 MLB minimum salary of $563,500.
See opening postProjected 2020 Opening Day Payroll (ODP) is now $61.09M. Last year's ODP was $82.12.
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1 hour ago, UpstateNYfan said:
What is the projected ODP down to now? Maybe the O's can lower it so Davis takes up more than 40% of it...ditch Cobb, Givens, might make it.
Davis accounts for 37.8% of the current ODP, Cobb 23%.
The O's would have to dispose of Mancini and/or Givens, maybe both if they sign any players to major league contracts, in order for Davis to account for 40% or more.
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Updated the roster projection for all transactions through 12/4/2019.
See opening postProjected 2020 Opening Day Payroll (ODP) is now $60.88M. Last year's ODP was $82.12.
Reminder -- my rule for ODP -- only players on the 40 Man roster.
The 40 Man now contains 37 players; so, room for both Rule 5 draftee(s) and major league signing(s).
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4 hours ago, wildcard said:
Thanks for the update.
This does not change payroll but I see Mancini as the 1B and Davis on the bench. I think Carroll is ahead of Fry, Tate and Kline. Stewart begins the season on the DL, on rehab in the minors or optioned and Williams playing LF.
Just thoughts.
OK, but Williams is not currently on the 40 Man and, if he replaces an IL'ed Stewart, that would affect the total payroll figure. Thanks for your thoughts.
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Updated the roster projection for all transactions through 12/2/2020.
See opening postProjected 2020 Opening Day Payroll (ODP) is now $66M. Last year's ODP was $82.12.
As to 2019 full season player compensation, according to the linked source below, the Orioles at 80.8M, ranked 27th ahead of the Pirates, Marlins and Rays; and had, by far, the largest percentage reduction in year over year compensation at -45.6%.
https://legacy.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/index.php?cyear=2019&team=&pos=-
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from MLBTR Chat With Mark Polishuk
https://www.jotcast.com/chat/mlbtr-chat-with-mark-polishuk-6509.htmlFrederick freeman5:19I’m so confused about the lack of interest in johnathon villar. Ultimately shouldn’t the orioles hold him and pay the $10 mil and trade him during the season when another teams needs change and the money owed is less?Mark P5:20Or, if you absolutely have to release him, do it in the last week of Spring Training so you only have to pay him a fraction of his salary (arbitration salaries aren't guaranteed until Opening Day). At least then you can maybe find a trade partner if a team has its second baseman go down to injury in spring.======================================================================
Arbitration contracts are not guaranteed, as a club can release a player on or before the 16th day of Spring Training and be responsible for only 30 days worth of pay. Players cut between the 17th and the final day of Spring Training must be compensated for 45 days worth of pay (at the prorated version of their arbitration salary). But if a player that agreed to an arbitration salary breaks camp with the club, his contract is fully guaranteed.
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1 hour ago, spiritof66 said:....Unless I'm missing something, the Orioles ought to appreciate that, given the current state of the team, anything that helps preserve a connection between the team and its dwindling fan base -- even if it doesn't sell any or many tickets right now -- is important. If that's right, the Orioles should have an interest in keeping the Hangout and its discussions about the team going, and not being cooperative with you is beyond stupid. There ought to be a way to get that message across to those at the highest levels of the Orioles in the event that hasn't already happened....
How about a "letter", signed by all participants here, directed to the appropriate executive in the O's organization (with copies to Mike Elias and any other relevant high-level decision-maker) detailing the rationale for the Orioles organization recognition and support of the Orioles Hangout?
I'm confident that there is sufficient talent among the readers and posters of OH to formulate a successful appeal.-
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13 hours ago, Frobby said:
Not too many guessers, eh? The O’s removed a reliever who faced less than 3 batters in the middle of an inning 14 times last year. The pitcher most often used this way was Paul Fry (6 times), followed by Tanner Scott (3), Miguel Castro (2), and one each for Jimmy Yacabonis, Sean Armstrong and Tim Eshelman. So, a total of six pitchers.
I don’t consider the 2019 Orioles as necessarily representative of what’s typical in MLB. The O’s played relatively few close games compared to most teams, and to a large degree Hyde was in the mode of testing his pitchers’ capabilities rather than just maximizing the chance of winning each game. I suspect if I looked at one of the recent contending O’s teams, I’d find they used this tactic far more often than the 2019 O’s. However, I do think this sample of one suggests that maybe the tactic isn’t used as often as some assume.
Check this out
https://www.mlb.com/news/how-3-batter-minimum-will-change-baseball-
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Here's some diverse opinions (and some pertinent data) from several professional commentators/journalists:
https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2019/03/14/why-three-batter-minimum-for-relief-pitchers-is-a-good-thing/
https://www.mlb.com/news/how-3-batter-minimum-will-change-baseball
https://www.si.com/mlb/2019/03/14/mlb-rule-changes-three-batter-minimum-home-run-derby
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My originally posted opinion remains unchanged:If MLB sticks with it, I think I'm going to like this rule.
Initially, the downside is the likelihood of a modest increase in blow-out innings.
On the plus side (at least, for me) I foresee the Increased value, development and use of pitchers who:
consistently perform with better than average command and control
are "rubber-armed" (can throw more pitches per appearance and require less rest between appearances)
are versatile -- starters who can effectively relieve and relievers who can effectively start
have very effective "trick pitches" -- ex: knuckleball -
If MLB sticks with it, I think I'm going to like this rule.
Initially, the downside is the likelihood of an increase in blow-out innings.
On the plus side (at least, for me) I foresee the following:
Increased value, development and use of pitchers who:
consistently perform with better than average command and control
are "rubber-armed" (can throw more pitches per appearance and require less rest between appearances)
are versatile -- starters who can effectively relieve and relievers who can effectively start
have very effective "trick pitches" -- ex: knuckleball -
21 minutes ago, Philip said:
Hi folks, happy daylight savings time extra hour of sleep day!
Is there a single thread already devoted To the discards, the declined options and other culls of the other teams?
I’ve read several posts about this guy or that guy cut loose by this or that team, but it would be great if they could all be put into one thread.
My own feeling is that half of our rotation, most of our bullpen, and half of our infield will be manned by guys acquired from that collection of chaff, and it would be great if everybody was all together.
Here's a list of free agents (includes as yet unsigned players who were on a MLB 40 man roster in 2019):
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3 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:
Yes, I know. If you prefer some other example of players that Steve Finley out-homered after age 30 you could instead choose Albert Pujols (at least for the moment), Manny Ramirez, Harmon Killebrew, Frank Thomas, Andre Dawson, Alex Rodriguez, Fred McGriff, Jim Edmonds, Eddie Murray, Jeff Bagwell, Adrian Beltre, Carl Yastrzemski, Dwight Evans, Billy Williams, Tony Perez, Norm Cash, Harold Baines, Ken Griffey Jr, Jose Bautista, Mike Piazza, Frank Howard, Joe Adcock, Cal, George Brett...
Finley was on par with Don Zimmer through 30, and out-homered all but 20 other players in history after that.
OK --- That's much better -- thanks.
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29 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:
I loved Steve Finley. His catch on opening day '89 set the tone for the whole year, and hated when he was traded. But going into his age 31 season he had 64 professional (including minors) homers, comparable to Don Zimmer or Kurt Suzuki. And a career high of 11. From 31-on he hit 260, one more than Ted Williams hit at those ages.
Launch angle. Coulda been launch angles.
The Splendid Splinter missed all but 43 games of his age 33 - 34 seasons while he served in the Korean Conflict.
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After adding Valaika and disposing of the outrighted players the O's 40-Man roster now stands at 38 (including Cobb and excluding Trumbo).
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3 hours ago, TAMC said:
Probably showing my ignorance, but as long as we're setting up a computerized system, shouldn't the strike zone be 3 dimensional, so we know whether the pitch passed over a portion of the plate and/or through the required vertical zone? This is technically feasible, I think, but might require a lot more cameras/computing requirements. The one on TV seems to be a vertical plane located at some point over the plate.
3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:Yes, unless they change the rules the electronic strike zone would have to be three dimensional.
The same automated ball/strike system (ABS) was tested this year in the Atlantic League and the AFL and is a 3D system.
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/robot-umpires-how-it-works-and-its-effect-on-players-and-managers-in-the-atlantic-league-plus-whats-to-come/
"TrackMan, or "robot ump," sits up above home plate (at all eight Atlantic League ballparks), and looks like a black box from afar. In reality, the box is a 3-D Doppler radar dish that analyzes each pitch thrown. Using a three-dimensional strike zone, TrackMan is able to calibrate each batters' size and stance, adjusting the strike zone accordingly. So, the system works so that it doesn't allow a 6-foot-7 player to have the same strike zone as a 5-foot-7 player."https://www.mlb.com/news/major-league-baseball-tests-robot-umpires-arizona-fall-league
"The system has also been used in the independent Atlantic League this season as part of a partnership with Major League Baseball."-
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6 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:
I think this is step one. They could start lowering the number of allowed pitchers in a few years to 12, then 11, then 10. To me that's the only sure-fire way of getting individual pitchers to pitch more, and back off from max effort all the time.
And I think they decided to make these irrelevant rules defining when a non-pitcher can pitch just to show they're putting something in the rules drawing a line between pitchers and non-pitchers. And to keep teams from stashing an extra real pitcher on the bench as a position player for use in real game situations.
Wow !! -- that's deep -- not sure if it is deep thought or deep state
Perhaps, the cabal at MLB is pushing teams to develop more player versions of the 1918-1919 Babe Ruth
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1 hour ago, thezeroes said:
To my way of thinking, why should the MLB dictate to the MLB Clubs as to how they use their respective rosters.
What will be next, telling clubs the average age of the Forty.
Telling clubs how many pitchers, catchers, infielders , outfielders, and DH's they can have on the Forty.
When does it end??
Do you think this is related to the Tampa By usage of "OPENERS" and not spending on aged starters and making it work??
Hopefully, with team player payroll parity.
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Posted · Edited by AZRon
I thought about that (but the compensation for my efforts is so "spare"
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OK -- I'll do it later.
Later has arrived -- See opening post