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1 hour ago, Frobby said:
How does that math work? Mullins and Hicks adds two. Cowser down subtracts one. How are you bringing up Ortiz in this scenario, especially if Mateo is on the bench?
His math doesn't work. But demoting McKenna, cutting Mateo, optioning Cowser and promoting Ortiz does work. That's what I'd like to see.
I love Cowser, but get him 3 weeks of playing time at Norfolk and if he gets back to hitting well, bring him back up when rosters expand.
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1 hour ago, Greg Pappas said:
Are you seriously judging Ortiz as a "defensive minded SS" on his 34 plate appearances earlier this year, instead of his .983 OPS in AAA in 384 PA's in the past two seasons? Look, I don't think Ortiz is a savior, at all... I just think he'll be a solid bat that maybe will be around a .780 OPS (like Bowie in 2022) guy with very good defense at SS. He runs well, but agree he is not a stolen base threat, like Mateo. I guess it comes down to what you want on your team. A poor hitting, very good defender at SS (usually) with excellent speed and stolen base skills or a (probably) much better hitter who is very good defensively at SS, but isn't a SB threat. In the uncommon instances that Mateo pinch runs and makes a difference, I bet Ortiz creates a bunch more value with his bat.
To your point that rookies struggle, I agree that is the case for many. But I'm not going to assume Ortiz will struggle because Cowser has. When a prospect is 25 years old and playing incredible ball at AAA over an extended period AND the player ahead of him on the roster is playing very poorly, well, it's time.
Love this post.
To add on, what kind of culture do the O's want? One where there is accountability for poor performance and merit based promotion for outstanding performance? I've never known a competitive player in team sports who wanted any other culture.
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12 hours ago, Billy F-Face3 said:
While I'm as ready to move on from Mateo as others here, we shouldn't forget that Fuji beaned in 2 go-ahead runs that really cost us the game.
We beat ourselves and that's what stings the most about tonight's game.
This thread isn't about last nights loss. It's about the fact we have a guy posting a sub .600 OPS in the majors who is routinely making defensive and baserunning mistakes even though he's ostensibly here for his glove / legs AND the fact we have a player at AAA with a +glove hitting .358 with a near 1.000 OPS who is already on the 40 man who could replace him.
Mateo's lack of performance and Ortiz going 5 - 8 with two 2bs last night are just the latest reminders that we may have a better option available to us.
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3 minutes ago, orioles22 said:I'm a big Ortiz fan, but there's no reason to make a move at this point. Let Ortiz continue to dominate at Norfolk for another month and let him take over in 2024.
I think fielding the best possible team during a pennant race is a very good reason to make a move at this point...
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3 minutes ago, maybenxtyr said:
They've kept him on the roster all year...I doubt they're going to make a change now.
Elias hasn't been afraid to make some atypical moves - Baker being demoted is the latest.
Frankly with Ortiz hitting .350 at AAA, I'd be shocked if he doesn't make a move.
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Put Mateo thru waivers and send him back to AAA to get everyday playing time and see if he can get some semblance of his defensive game back. If he gets claimed, so be it.
Bring up Ortiz and start him. He can't be worse defensively than Mateo has been recently and he will certainly be an upgrade offensively.
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1 hour ago, Paul in Virginia said:
Excitement building...
What's the chance McDermott is in consideration for the rotation next season if he keeps this up?
Also, how close is McD to cracking the Top 100?
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The Blue Jays should have offered the farm to trade for Mountcastle. He'd be an MVP candidate playing half his games in Rogers.
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1 minute ago, SteveA said:
Not gonna play tonight outside of maybe on pinch hitting appearance. Same tomorrow vs Kikuchi. Than Gausman. So probably has to wait to get hot until the crappy Mets rotation which is made up of washed up old guys and nobodies comes to town. But a couple of them are lefties.
Not sure what the timetable on Hicks or Mullins is but I think if Cowser hasn't shown something at the plate by the time the first one of those guys comes off the IL, he'll be back in Norfolk.
I'm rooting for him.
I bet he'll get some ABs after the O's knock Ryu out in the 3rd or 4th inning.
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Just now, SteveA said:
Cowser says hold my beer
Cowser gonna break out soon. I feel it.
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I hope Hays gets back to form soon.
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Just now, ChuckS said:
Anyone know why Flaherty’s walks are up so drastically this season (and last in 36 IP)?
Really the ugliest part of his line. K/IP pretty good, not giving up a ton of homers.
Maybe he's gun shy from having a .346 babip and a bad defense behind him so he's trying to pitch away from contact?
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Just now, Hallas said:
Don't really want to put Wells in the pen. Maybe a week off followed by a tune-up in Bowie will set him straight and he can go back in the rotation. Kremer seems like a nice 2 inning guy out of the pen. I know he hasn't been bad lately but he'd probably be a lot more reliable than Baker has been in high leverage situations.
I hear you, but Wells was a dominant guy out of the pen before he moved to starter. I don't know if Kremer has ever had that kind of success from the pen.
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Just now, jamalshw said:
When the idea of Flaherty was a hypothetical a couple weeks ago, I said I'd be okay with the move and still am. The price was a bit steeper than I'd like, but not completely insane. The real test will be to see what he looks like in an Orioles' uniform. If the coaches (or algorithms) identified anything that can be fixed/tweaked to yield better results--or at least continue the results he had in July. If so and he pitches like his July numbers the rest of the year, it's a good move.
He apparently has really good competitive makeup. He could benefit from the O's improved defense (Cards were #28 in DRS) and change of scenery.
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3 minutes ago, emmett16 said:
Seriously. Prieto might stick in MLB. He’s a one trick pony and will have to hit substantially. Rom & Showalter are long shots to to make any impact in MLB. Good trade IMO. We got a starter with potential upside. Hall, Wells, Means, Fuji in pen is a substantial upgrade. Imagine this was likely the plan all along for Hall given his set-backs earlier in the year.
And we didn't mortgage the future for a questionable return or shake up the clubhouse to much.
We're the #1 team in the AL, we got better at the trade deadline and maintained the top farm system in the game.
Future. Bright. Shades.
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2 minutes ago, Hallas said:
When no one's really happy, that means it was a good trade. Right?
I am happy with Flaherty and Fuji for what we traded. I think there are a lot of others here who are as well.
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Flaherty apparently has a huge curveball that has a 43% swing and miss rate.
I'd love it if he has an Otter class curve.
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1 minute ago, Sammy Seagull said:
Sad this is the best they could do, three players for one two month rental. Elias is not looking good with this foul up. St. Louis is dancing in the streets tonight, free Bud Light for everyone!
I was just at the Cardinals message board. They are pissed they got "nothing" for Flaherty. Not sure who is dancing in the streets.
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2 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:
Rom is completely meaningless. He is nothing more than organization filler.
You can pick up 5 Drew Roms every offseason for nothing.
Synchronized posting.
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1 minute ago, forphase1 said:
Don't love that we traded two pieces from an already short on talent pitching prospects depth. Would have rather only traded position players really.
Rom was a candidate for DFA this year. Showalter is 19 and years away from helping the team. I don't think Elias traded away a pitcher that would likely help the club in the next 4 - 5 years.
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1 minute ago, O's84 said:
We shouldn't be dealing with hopes. Go get another arm for the pen and then, if Wells and Hall work out, then that's a luxury.
I don't know what you mean, hopes? Wells is certainly going to be in the pen for the O's down the stretch. Hyde just said that's the plan on the pregame show.
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2 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:
So...who comes off the 26 man?
I'd think Kreibel?
Thursday afternoon August 3: new Oriole Jack Flaherty takes on old Oriole Kevin Gausman
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Elias made the point that Flaherty should benefit from the quality of our defense and catchers. Seems like almost every pitcher that comes here shaves half a run off his ERA.