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    4/17: A Walkoff And A Sweep

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    It doesn't get said often enough, but I just love the effort you put into the recaps, both at the Orioles level and especially at  the minors level.  So much good information and highlights.

    Reason 413 as to why I love the Hangout, but a very important reason.

    Thank you, again.

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    Tony banned from Os parade?

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    4 hours ago, Tony-OH said:

    I'm long past being worried about who likes or doesn't like me out there, especially in the Xverse (is that a thing?) :D.  I just do my thing and let the chips fall where they fall. Plus, maybe I'm just old, but I have no idea what this is all about! 🤣

    I know that you have made your peace with this decision, and you are not bothered by this.

    I am.

    You deserve better.

     

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    Orioles 2-0 over Pirates (observations)

    in Orioles Talk

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    2 hours ago, RZNJ said:

    1. Westburg is standing more upright at the plate, no longer in the deep crouch.  I noticed last year at Norfolk he would start in the crouch but straighten up when swinging.   In the majors, he seemed to stay in the crouch from setup all through the swing.  I think, hopefully, this will get him to the power/home run stroke he showed in AAA.  
     

    2.  I know they mentioned Cowser being bigger.  He definitely looks thicker in the legs.  Had good AB’s today (2 walks) and solid contact on an F8.   On defense, had a good read on a low liner, broke in quickly, and made it look easy.

    3.  Cole Irvin was 92-93 but touched 94-95 and looked good.

    4. Bryan Baker looks like a different, not sure better, pitcher.   The delivery is smoother, not max effort, and it looks like the release isn’t quite as high.   His changeup looked smoothed out and his control of it looked good today.  I didn’t notice his velocity but I  wonder if he’s sacrificing there to gain better command of all 3 pitches.

    5. Bradfield is as fast as advertised.  Fisted a liner over the pitchers head hit the grass behind the mound.  Cruz attempted the play but there was no chance.   At plate he showed the good eye and contact capability.   Tough to tell much else.  The swing does look flat (not a bad thing) and he definitely has room to add some muscle if they decide it would help.   He played LF and made one play exciting but made a nice adjustment and made the catch.

    6.  Ryan Long was 96-97 his first inning with a nice looking changeup.  He was down to 93-94 with some 95s in his second inning.  
     

    7. Kjerstad (hit the ball hard but on the ground) and Westburg (beat on high fastball) not quite there yet.

    8. Mayo might be the most impressive hitter I saw all day.  Aggressive swings on anything in the zone but showed great strike zone awareness.  I think he made contact on every swing and perhaps didn’t take one strike while also not swinging at anything that was clearly out of the zone.  Lined a foul down the RF that had home run distance.

    9. Not much else stood out to me.

    10. One more thing.  Mateo.  He didn’t look like 2023 April Mateo but he also didn’t look like the May-October Mateo.  When he keeps his weight back, like he did today, he can impact the ball.  Had one hard hit and looked pretty good at the plate even with a K on a tough slider.

     

    RZNJ, this is good stuff.  Why I love Orioles Hangout

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    Thank you, Tony

    in Orioles Talk

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    I am sure that I have violated 22 express rule violations and 37 Orioles Hangout unwritten rules in making my first post, but Tony’s extensive work on providing insightful, can’t find it anywhere else info on Orioles prospects is invaluable , and most appreciated. 
     

    Promise no more thread opening posts from me, until the earliest of (1) an Orioles WS win, (2) completion of deferred payments on the Chris Davis contract, or (3) consummation of a Sports Guy three- team trade (just kidding, SG).

    Happy Thanksgiving to everyone on this wonderful site.

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    Hudson Haskin Rule 5 protection?

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    2 hours ago, Mooreisbetter27 said:

    Looks like we outrighted Vavra and Davidson off the 40 man. So we're down to 36 on the 40 man.  

    From the department of I waiver on whether I understand DFA's and waivers, it appears that both players remain in the organization.  Is that understanding correct? 

    #5 will be Missed

    in Orioles Talk

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    1970 World Series.  1970 World Series.  1970 World Series.

    The only way Brooks could surpass that transcendent performance was to be by all accounts I have read to be nothing less that one of the kindest, classiest, most decent human beings.

    Had my picture taken with Frank and Brooks in 1966.  One of my most cherished memories.

    My heart aches tonight. 

    Shintaro Fujinami

    in Orioles Talk

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    I like Fujinami.  I really do.  Loved the video of the Mr. Baumann interview in the bullpen, in August I believe, where Fuji is fanning water on him.  But if I watch another inning of him in any type of leverage situation, my three-year supply of bourbon on hand will be reduced by 35 months.

    Ryan Mountcastle 2023

    in Orioles Talk

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    Understand his flaws, which have been well and empirically documented.  But damn, that was some series.

    and my UPS driver, who is the gold standard, was his high school teammate.  Swears by him as a dude, which is good enough for a cranky old geezer like me,

    Your Rule V Orioles: RHP Andrew Politi (Red Sox)

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    On 12/7/2022 at 8:11 PM, DocJJ said:

    The Noah Song pick is fascinating to me.  He was one of the most Dominant college pitchers ever (although Navy may not have played the toughest schedule) back in 2019.   Then he had to honor his military commitment, so he only has 17 innings under his belt and those were thrown almost 4 years ago.  He had (has?) electric stuff and was unhittable in 2019, leading the entire NCAA in K's.  

     

    His 2019 numbers for the Midshipmen:

    11-1  1.44 ERA 94 IP 161 K's 31 BB 15.4 K/9

    Maybe stash him in the bullpen for a year and then he's all yours.

    From the department of irrelevant information, it appears that that the Song is over for Noah with the Phillies - looks like he was DFA'd.  Thought he would have been an interesting pick.  Back to our regular programming.

    Twin Twins series

    in Orioles Talk

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    This qualifies as entirely small-minded.  My former boss is a huge, huge Twins fan.  Five weeks ago, he DFA’d me, for reasons I did not agree with.

    The results of this weekend were agreeable to me.

    Back to our regular programming.  Did not mean to go off topic.  What a great weekend 

     

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    Yennier Canó 2023

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    Keep waiting for the clock to strike midnight, and keep realizing I need another fairy tale.  What a revelation.  I have placed an order with the Minnesota Twins to maintain my pitcher of the month club subscription.  The Wells order was excellent.  Am enjoying the Caulombe order from this spring as well.  The Gibson order started off fresh, and still enjoying.

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    Orioles acquire Danny Coulombe

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    Autistic triplets, for me.  A really good article, and thanks for the link.  Good thoughts headed to the parents who have replied in this thread.  It's a challenge, but so rewarding.  Until I just found out one of the triplets threw a pint of strawberries in the playroom.  Good horizontal movement, mediocre spin rate.   Can't see him going above Aberdeen this year.

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    “He is what he is?”: A study of players who had 10+ rWAR careers

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    1 hour ago, Frobby said:

    A lot of times I see posters who will declare about some 25-26 year old player, “he is what he is at this point.”   But how true is that?   To try to get a feel for it, I’m studying a group of position players who earned 10+ rWAR in their careers.  I intend to look at all position players who debuted from 2006-2010 who earned 10+ rWAR, but so far I’ve only looked at the 26 players from 2006 who reached that level.   

    Needless to say, players who reach 10+ rWAR are a fraction of all players.  In 2006, for example, 77 position players debuted, but only 26 reached 10 rWAR in their careers.   Here is some data I’ve gathered on this group.

    Debut age: The average was 23.0, but they varied widely.   Youngest was Adam Jones at age 20; oldest was Carlos Ruiz at age 27.

    First 2 WAR season: the average was 24.7, so basically two years after debut. The youngest were Troy Tulowitzki, Nick Markakis and Adam Jones at age 22.  Markakis, Mike Napoli (24), Andre Ethier (24) and Dan Uggla (26) produced 2+ rWAR in the season they debuted.  The oldest to have their first 2 WAR season were Ben Zobrist, Carlos Ruiz and Rajai Davis, at age 28.   Chris Young took the longest, producing a 2+ WAR season four years after he debuted.

    Best WAR season: The average age was 27.5.   Youngest was Troy Tulowitzki, who had his best WAR season at age 22, his first full season.   The oldest was Carlos Ruiz, who had his best WAR year at 33.  Russell Martin (31), Howie Kendrick (30), and Andrew Ethier (33) also had their best WAR season in their 30’s.

    Best 3 consecutive WAR seasons: the average was 27-29.   Earliest was our own Nick Markakis at 23-25; oldest was Carlos Ruiz at 31-33.   

    Best 5 consecutive WAR seasons: On average this went from 25.6 - 29.6.  Earliest were Markakis, Stephen Drew and James Loney at 23-27; oldest was Ruiz again at 31-35.   

    Best OPS+ season (400 PA minimum): averaged 27.3.  Markakis was youngest at 24; Ruiz oldest at 33.

    Best 3 consecutive OPS+ seasons: 27.1-29.1.  Markakis and Ruiz were the high/low.

    Best 5 consecutive OPS+ seasons: 26.0 - 30.0.  Nick was youngest at ages 22-26, Rajai Davis the oldest at 31-35.

    Last 3 rWAR season: average was 29.6.   The youngest was again Markakis, who never had a 3+ rWAR season after age 24.  (Actually, James Loney accumulated 10+ rWAR without ever having a 3 WAR season.)  Oldest was Ben Zobrist at age 37.  14 of the 26 had a 3+ WAR season after age 30.

    Last 2 rWAR season: average was 31.5.   Youngest were Matt Kemp and Chris Young, who had their last 2 rWAR seasons at age 27.   Oldest was Zobrist, again at 37.   Other oldies were Kendrys Morales at 35, and Ian Kinsler and Nick Markakis at 34.  (I felt the need to mention Nick there so that it wouldn’t seem like he did nothing after age 24!)  21 of the 26 players had a 2+ WAR season at age 30 or later.

    Last 110 OPS+ season: average was 30.9.   Three of the 10+ WAR players never had one — Michael Bourn, Stephen Drew and Rajai Davis.  Otherwise, the youngest to have his last was Chris Ianetta at age 25; oldest was Zobrist again.  18 of the 26 had a 110+ season at age 30 or later.   

    So, that’s the class of 2006.   It’s a slightly unusual group, with no serious candidate for the Hall of Fame.  (Kinzler produced the highest career rWAR at 54.1.)   But, I’m guessing it’s a pretty representative group with respect to the average age profiles and the fairly wide variety of career paths.  One thing I noticed was, a lot of these players never had 5 consecutive solid seasons.  The ones that did are generally the ones with the highest career WAR.

    If anyone has questions for me about this group, let me know.  
     

    The only question I have is how can anyone not realize the value you bring to this website.  Your retirement is our added gain.  This is great stuff, and as usual, you do your research.

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