[Is Anybody else frustrated with the organizations pitching philosophy]

4 minutes ago, Frobby said:

There’s philosophy, and then there’s execution.  You can believe 93 on the corner is better than 96 down the middle, and throw one 93 down the middle.  Franchy’s two homers were on mistake pitches, for example.  No philosophy about it.  

So when do we start drafting guys who can paint in the 1st round?

[Adley Rutschman 2023]

2 hours ago, Frobby said:

To give some idea of how WAR can fluctuate day to day, yesterday Adley was at 0.2 for the season. After his 4 for 4 with a homer, today he’s at 0.5.   

 

WAR for catchers is useless. It's simply far too difficult to measure a catcher's defensive and game calling impact. There was a reason we sucked before he got here and then started winning when he arrived. We cant measure his contributions behind the plate.

[Is Anybody else frustrated with the organizations pitching philosophy]

2 minutes ago, deward said:

I'm more concerned that this might be their actual philosophy. Bring in guys like Gibson and Irvin and expect the park to save them against good lineups. 

 

I'd much rather run out Gibson a craft veteran who at least gives you chance to win a baseball game. Than a stuff guy like Hall coming in and having a 50 percent chance of self destructing before the 4th inning even begins. 

[Is Anybody else frustrated with the organizations pitching philosophy]

Just now, Pickles said:

You know there's actually a postive correlation between higher velocity and lower run allowance, right?

Yea and how is that working out for the Os?

[It feels like the Orioles are not quite sure what to do with themselves]

16 minutes ago, Going Underground said:

Adley,Wells and Voth went to the Springsteen concert so they knew what to do with themselves.

 

They play a team that lost 11-0  for two days in a row.They have the worst pitching and hitting in the majors. The schedule on paper looks a lot easier the next few weeks  

 

Wow you mean a group of 25 year old guys want to have a night out? Who would have ever thought?

[Is Anybody else frustrated with the organizations pitching philosophy]

12 minutes ago, Pickles said:

Is that you, Leo Mazzone?

Both Gausman and Arrieta were products of the previous regime.  They do not reflect on the current regime's philosophies and/or failings.

My goal would be to win a lot of baseball games. I can't do this if I consistently acquire pitchers who like to throw 98mph over the middle of the plate.

[Is Anybody else frustrated with the organizations pitching philosophy]

7 minutes ago, Pickles said:

Off-season acquisitions of Gibson and Irvin don't suggest the Orioles are prioritizing velocity over command.  In fact, quite the opposite.

We keep doing this though. Kevin Gausman and Jake Arrieta learned the hard way that 97 over the plate will flat out not get it done. They leave the Orioles and drop a few mph off the fastball and all of a sudden start hitting the corner and dominate baseball games. When are we going to start throwing fastballs low and away?

[Is Anybody else frustrated with the organizations pitching philosophy]

In the MLB, hitters will time and crank 97-98. Velocity isn't enough at this level. Go ahead and blow people away at A and AA and even perhaps AAA. The 97mph fastballs over the plate doesn't cut it in the AL East. I dont care that Hall and Rodriguez can throw 98. Doesnt matter to me.

All I'm asking for is 92-93 on the corner with movement and quality off speed. Is that too much to ask for? 

After a while I tired of seeing Os pitchers pumping in high velocity fastballs over the heart of the plate and getting rocked.

We should be scouting for command, not velocity. Especially with this left field wall keeping everything in the park.

[It feels like the Orioles are not quite sure what to do with themselves]

Need to trade some position players for pitching. We have too many hitters and not enough pitching.