OsFanInOhio

MLB pitchers are typically used to throwing every fifth day. So not having days off, while an extra day is nice, is typical and their normal MO. But with a 6 man rotation (and therefore a 7 man bullpen), you would like to have a few days off to rest the pen. We have had enough trouble keeping the pen rested even with an 8 man bullpen. And we don’t have guys with options to send down and get fresh arms to cover innings in instances where the pen is overused. even with the pitchers throwing well, we’ve used 7, 5 and 5 relievers over the last 3 games. Without the day off on either side of the nationals game, our pen would be exhausted.

I haven’t seen anything even alluding to this other than writer speculation due to not having an obvious candidate to send to the pen. . 6 man rotation doesn’t make much sense given a lack of off days over the next month, and only one pitcher in the pen with options to bring up fresh arms. Who you may theoretically have to option anyway when wells comes back.

We already have to move someone to the the when Grayson comes back. And dda someone (or option akin). Who are the two starters you’re moving to the pen, who are you dfa’ing, and how much are you willing to give up since it would have to be significant to be an upgrade on what we have throwing so far? by the trade deadline, it may make sense. But trading for a starter now doesn’t make a lot of sense.

Accurate. People had written Irvin off as not good enough despite his track record. He’s not going to be a 1 era pitcher, but if he settled in somewhere around 3.5 or so that wouldn’t be shocking. I imagine the orioles tweaked a few things when he came over and it took time to start working. Or the work he did reshaping his pitches and getting back in shape made a difference this offseason and hopefully he can be better than he was with the A’s.

Dakota Jordan does align with a profile we’ve liked at times clear the years. Power profile with some swing and miss risk (kjerstad, westberg, mayo, Fabian). Unimpressive defense and arm on top of the swing and miss makes me nervous, but power, bat speed and foot speed is an enticing combination.

I mean - 1/3 first round high school pitchers ended up as a starter. And one didn’t even stick with the orioles (Harvey - who was dfa’d after a bunch of injuries). Injury risk is a huge Piece of the miss rate on projecting 18 year olds, as is projecting growth and control. I’d be pretty shocked if we take one early. We’ve taken two since Elias joined, unless I am forgetting someone. Baumler in the 5th round and Zack showalter in the 10th or 11th. That’s a really really low % of picks to hs demographic over the last 5 years…

At least somewhat in jest. and I was dealing with someone obnoxious at work, so probably being argumentative as well. but I guess also because if you ignore their starter value loss, it’s basically asking who is your best pitcher. In which case i cannot fathom any argument for kremer, Irvin, means, Suarez to even be options. And wells only gets a note because he’s the only one who has done it before. but I suppose purely to be whimsical, I would probably say Burnes given his track record, or bradish due to his stuff and not being quite as susceptible to first inning damage as Burnes (and Grayson).

Suarez. Largely because I reject the concept of ignoring the impact of removing them from the rotation.

Povich is a starter. It makes no sense to bring him up and put him in Baumann’s role. Especially not in a short term situation when he’s pitching so well starting in Norfolk. also - it kind of feels like Baumann is just a placeholder. When wells and/or Grayson come back, there isn’t another logical move other than maybe option akin, who has pitched dramatically better than Baumann. But I can’t imagine Baumann surviving both wells and Grayson coming back without another injury. I don’t think Elias is doing anything crazy other than holding onto assets with value until it’s necessary to let them go. Is Tate probably better in the long term? Yeah. But he’s also coming off a year long injury and they don’t want to overuse him. Let them use his option for the flexibility, manage his innings, let Baumann either prove he can rediscover early 2023 form or get dfa’d in the coming weeks while eating whatever innings we need him to. Not like he’s costing us games at the moment.

Not sure why my last post didn’t stick. but you’re right - but I fully expect he’ll be sheltered at least a month or two. Then Mateo could spell Mullins in cf against lefties, or actually give adley a few days off instead of dh’ing him all the time. Mateo has plenty of value on this really lefty heavy team for at least the remainder of this year.

Not sure how Holliday coming bacK impacts Mateo…when Holliday comes back, he will likely continue to be sheltered or hidden from lefties, which is all Mateo does…

Definitely harder to try to figure out who is a target and who might be there, but I’m surprised how much I’m still quite interested in who we might pick. them again, I thought there’d be no chance bradfield would be there at our pick last year, so maybe someone unexpected does drop. Or someone gets hot down the stretch and surges up the boards. Our success with Gunnar, norby, westburg, mayo and how good beavers looks makes me think we can still do plenty of damage at 22 and 32.

I tend to believe Elias and sig don’t prefer the risk associated with high schoolers to begin with, based on only drafting 4 total in the top 5 rounds over the last 4 or 5 years. They’ve had success with the ones they did take, but of like 25 opportunities, they’ve only taken 4 shots at high schoolers. Hs pitchers even less, as they’ve only taken 1 in the top 5 rounds, and maybe 2 total. Could they do it? I’m sure. Especially since we are conservative with pitchers and they work really short stints in the low minors, so he wouldn’t be overworked. But I also wonder if chasing the next ohtani is a pipe dream, and that many of these prospects would be better off focusing on one or the other.

Do you know if he’s mostly considered a pitching prospect vs a hitting prospect? I feel like a lot of what I read in very early mocks had him as a pitching prospect who was two way and could be a hitter. If he ends up as a 1st round caliber hitter who can also have some pitching upside on the side, I’d be fine with it. I don’t really see the orioles taking a hs pitcher given their track record.

At that point, couldn’t you just draft the hs kid at 22 for slot then Cunningham at 32? I haven’t seen Cunningham mocked in a lot of first rounds and don’t know too much about him