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If the Ravens sideline wasn't informed that they were actually going to have the two-minute warning after the free kick when the clock was changed from 1:56 to 2:03, then this should be a lead story about the game and the refs should be eviscerated for it.
If even one person on the Ravens sideline knew that the two-minute warning had yet to happen before the free kick, then it's atrocious that we didn't call a timeout to make sure everyone on the field knew what to do. "We didn't have time to communicate it to Zay" doesn't work. If you know, you make time. In one scenario, we need a first down to win the game. In the other, we can run a three and out, punt it away, and the Colts get the ball back with 20-30 seconds left and no timeouts.
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1 hour ago, Tony-OH said:
Definitely snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory thanks to some of the worse coaching we will see.
Lol, you had the Colts on the half yard line with 2:03 left in the half with them only having one TO and lost.
Can't make that kind of clown show coaching up. 16 years as a headcoach and his coaching staff still can't handle time management.
Oh well. The Orioles won and their magic number is 3!!!
The Ravens 100% deserved to lose this game. The football Gods were righteous.
Congrats to the Colts and their backup QB that nobody wanted coming into the Ravens' house and letting the Ravens beat themselves by just not doing much dumb crap.
We always get a few games a year where the Ravens will lose due to Harbaugh and his coaching staff. This was just the first one of the year.
Go O's.
The Ravens were up by 3 and about to get a free kick after a safety with 2:03 left. The Colts only had one timeout left.
The Colts got the ball back with 1:41 left.
I mean, that's impossible, the worst clock management I've ever seen, and that's saying something given the fact that horrible clock management is a Harbaugh trademark.
I was sitting at the game thinking it was pretty much over as soon as the safety happened, and instead there were three more alternating possessions before regulation ended. Inconceivable.
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This was like the Lenn Sakata at catcher game, with Roenicke at third and Lowenstein at second. Tippy threw it to Eddie Murray because it was the only guy he recognized in the infield. Three straight pickoffs.
Cano recognized Rutschman and just threw three straight to him. Keep it simple. Big win!
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We hit 3 balls out of the infield the entire night. Literally 3. It is almost impossible to win a game doing that.
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7 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:
I think Radhames Liz was a pretty good prospect. In Bowie in 2007 he struck out 161 in 137 innings, went 11-4, 3.22. But the Orioles of that era called him right up, probably with little support, no idea what he was doing, no organizational plan to try to adhere to, and expected him to fix that staff of misfits.
You know Liz is still active. He's pitched for Tijuana and Dos Laredos in the Mexican League this year. 3-1 with a 3.50 in ten starts at the age of 39. He's played in Taiwan, Korea, Japan, all kinds of winter ball. Was in the Brewers' system as recently as 2018. Was 16-6 in Taiwan in '19. If those O's teams of 15 years ago had their stuff together like Elias' do I bet he could have had a MLB career.
Ah, Radhames Liz. His performance in this game lives on forever for me. 103 pitches in 3.2 innings on a 3 hour 48 minute Kids Run the Bases day. The game was endless and the postgame line was miles long. The game started at 1:37, and my son finished running the bases at 6:18. Just brutal.
https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/BAL/BAL200807060.shtml
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10 minutes ago, Brian88 said:
Ugh, the curse of Kevin Brown is beginning.
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Just now, Sports Guy said:
Those people should be going nuts if this is true.
Bill Simmons used to write about things entering the "Tyson Zone". In other words, Mike Tyson got to the point where literally any story could be told about him and you would believe it was reality.
I think John Angelos may be perilously close to the Tyson Zone.
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2 minutes ago, Barnaby Graves said:
Quite believable actually haha. Can’t believe how stupid this entire fiasco is.
Agreed. It should be unbelievable, but what a small-minded reaction from small-minded people.
Nothing wins fans over like silencing them. Hope the muting of the fans gets covered.
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1 minute ago, Barnaby Graves said:
They are muting the stadium noise on the radio feed whenever the Free Kevin Brown chants kick up.
I was just checking to see if others had noticed that. Unbelievable.
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46 minutes ago, Ridgway22 said:
"pro-Angelos"? Not sure I've ever seen or heard of such a thing in the last 25 years.
Given the recent internal family lawsuits, there are even Angeloses who aren't "pro-Angelos".
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22 minutes ago, Bahama O's Fan said:
I love what Buck did, but honestly, it was so great because we had such low expectations. If he had a sub .500 record for many other teams, he would be seen as a failure.
He had a sub-.500 record because they were 58 games below .500 in his final season. It's not like they were 8 years of mediocre teams. It was 3 playoff teams, a division winner, and 5 teams in a row that were .500 or better when the franchise hadn't sniffed those finishes and numbers in two decades.
Slight him for other things, but highlighting the .500 overall record isn't an accurate reflection of what he did for the franchise.
Like Sports Guy, it's not even a question for me.
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1 hour ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:
Nice and quick summary of the 1983 season and John Stefero's heroics are specifically mentioned.
This segment is from the fantastic Miracles on 33rd Street DVD. You can watch the whole thing on YouTube. It does a brilliant job weaving scenes from the final afternoon at Memorial Stadium throughout the '54 to '91 seasons. Well worth a watch.
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13 hours ago, Frobby said:
Your memory is off in one minor respect. After that 10-9 Sunday game, the O’s played the Brewers again on Monday, completing a 4-game sweep with an 8-7 walk-off win. (I have no memory of that game, I just saw it when I was looking up the 10-9 box score on BB-ref).
John Stefero came through in the Monday night game as well, a game winner in the 11th inning! I was there for that one.
I bought a car from John Stefero at Honda City Honda in Glen Burnie almost 20 years later.
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1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:669- 684 I can do math too.
281-374
That's the current guy.
17-34
187-283
122-164
129-140
275-372
157-167
That's every other manager before and since Buck, going back to Davey Johnson.
I guess you can post his career record as a manager here as an entire argument, but it's a gross oversimplification that allows one historically bad season to diminish the only three playoff seasons and only consistently watchable baseball we had for 25 years. It seems like a lot of people forget what 2012 and 2014 felt like.
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Look at the Orioles' record over the past quarter century (1998-2022). In those 25 years, we were .500 or better 6 times. 5 of those 6 years were in Buck's 8 years here. The other 17 teams (pre and post-Buck) were a combined 380 games below .500. We've had 3 playoff teams in those 25 years. Buck was at the helm for all of them.
If we want to ignore all of that and just look at the 2016 playoff game, I guess we can. It's certainly fair to judge the state of the team when he left, though it's probably fair to look at the fact that he took over a team that hadn't broken the 70 win mark the five years before he got here. It's not like he took over a stable program.
He was a huge boost to this franchise and helmed the best run we've had since the Bill Clinton administration. I'll always be thankful for him and this it's disappointing how he's often remembered.
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7 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
I’m hearing we traded Mateo for a #5 from Taco Bell.
Their #5 is not as good as our #5!!!
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I am going to go out on a limb and say he will wind up somewhere between Ted Williams and Tom Shopay...
In reality, the player I've heard him compared to a lot over the years is Nick Markakis. I know we've cited Rutschman and Henderson's adjustments in this thread, but look back at Markakis' splits from his rookie year in 2006. They looked like this:
April .182/.270/.288
May .254/.329/.338
Not good at all (though certainly better than July Cowser). I remember lots of hand-wringing then as well. Then Markakis went on a three-month tear through the end of August.
It will take time with Cowser, and it's just a matter of how painful it will be if it happens through a late-summer pennant race. Without Mullins and Hicks, we don't have a ton of options.
As we review these adjustment periods for everyone, it's reinforced for me that calls for Kjerstad and Ortiz to jump-start our lineup may be unrealistic. I would certainly have Ortiz up here in place of Mateo at this point, but I have to temper my expectations with all of these guys.
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Since May 1st, he is batting .153 (26 for 170) with 7 doubles, 1 triple, and no homers. He's got 10 walks and 52 strikeouts. He's only stolen 13 bases, proving again that you can't steal first base. He's got a .200 OBP and a .209 slugging percentage since May 1st.
He's proven he's not a full-time player. Now he's proven he's not a part-time player. His best chance to contribute is defensively and on the basepaths, but now he's hurting us defensively. There is no long-term future for him at the position - Henderson and Holliday are better options. He doesn't need to be a short-term option - Joey Ortiz can come in right now and can give us a glove-first SS at worst, if that's what we want.
This isn't 1974 Herb Washington Oakland A's territory. For those wanting a baserunning specialist, that happened with 8 or 9 man pitching staffs. That was 50 years ago. You only get 4 bench guys these days and one of them is your back-up catcher. You don't carry a guy who gives you nothing for 5 months on the off chance that he's needed twice in the playoffs.
April was fun, but it's time for him to go.
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I wish the Otter only had 10 wild pitches instead of 11. My junior year of college would have been so much happier...
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1 minute ago, ArtVanDelay said:
It hasn’t determined home field advantage for years.
Thanks for clearing that up for me. This Old Man will go yell at Cloud about something else...
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21 minutes ago, George Zuverink said:
I hate, hate, hate it! Came on this thread just to see how others feel about it.
Major League Baseball: This game is important enough that it determines home field advantage for the World Series.
Also Major League Baseball: Let's mic up the pitcher and batter so they can talk to each other during an at-bat.
Please make up your mind what you want to be, MLB.
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45 minutes ago, Gofannon said:
I am not superstitious, just a little bit stitious. About a half an hour ago, I realized that I changed from WBAL to 98 Rock about a month ago and things have been an uphill battle since. I changed back to WBAL when Gunnar threw a ball off the cameraman's face, and we immediately scored 4 runs. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
If we lose this game, please pretend I never posted this.
WBAL it is.
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I am not superstitious, just a little bit stitious. About a half an hour ago, I realized that I changed from WBAL to 98 Rock about a month ago and things have been an uphill battle since. I changed back to WBAL when Gunnar threw a ball off the cameraman's face, and we immediately scored 4 runs. I'm not saying, I'm just saying.
If we lose this game, please pretend I never posted this.
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In addition, if anyone thinks games against AL East opponents can tend to run long, they are right.
This year we've had 70 9 inning games at this point, with 10 games lasting longer than 3 hours.
Against the AL East teams, 5 out of 20 9 inning games have exceeded 3 hours.
Against all other teams, 5 out of 50 9 inning games have exceeded 3 hours.
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Magic Number !!
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For no reason at all, this is the guy I think of: