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Because the O's fixed him.

I agree. Your assumption not mine. And I can see, judging by your other posts that you wouldn't put much stock in the evidence I provided. After-all if O'Hearn's career data isn't' useful why should you care what Bautista did? Who cares what anyone does for their career, the O's should just trade everyone when they go into a slump and trade for guys that are on a hot streak! O'Hearn has an established history of being VERY bad. He hasn't earned any benefit of the doubt. He should have to keep proving himself. Hopefully it's sustainable, history tells us that it probably isn't.

Oh, so now it was a comp.

Nope, pretty sure your poor framing of your "argument". You make a poor comparison, get called out and then suggest you weren't making any comparison. Why bring up Bautista if it wasn't as a comp?

You are advocating the Orioles ignore all data from before this season. That suggest that you think the current situation is capable of being sustained.

Sure, that's not trying to compare the two players. Right. It was a very poor comparison but yea, you were trying to suggest a similarity between the two.

Well, you are so dim about all of this that it isn't hard to miss your attempt at sarcasm. HE IS NOT A GOOD COMP. He had three seasons with Pit in which he had an OPS+ between 94-96. That's slightly below average, in case you don't know what that stat means. He than had over a full season with the Blue Jays playing at a similar level. O'Hearn had an OPS+ between 65 and 73 in his last four seasons with the Royals. It's not a good comp, it's not even a decent comp. It is ludicrous to toss aside data. Guys go on heaters every year.

Haven't heard that, got a link? Normally MLB players are pretty quiet about contract stuff.

Just FYI he's going to make more than that this year.

Me too. I had a pretty big rant on the draft thread.

Could be, that one isn't that bad either. Of course someone complains about an ump every thread.

It's a must win game for them.

They aren't keeping the pace, they are setting the pace.

Folks had big issues with the Ump last night right?

How am I moving the goalposts? YOU said 569 At bats for YOUR hand picked example. O'Hearn isn't even close to that. It's your goalpost. You picked one your boy hasn't reached.

Sure. So a LOT more than we've seen from O'Hearn. Not sure why you are talking this up, it doesn't support your point. If O'Hearn is still doing this at the All Star break next season that means a lot more than him doing it now.

He put up an OPS+ in the 90's for three seasons with the Pirates. He didn't really start improving with the Jays until his third season. He also had over 400 at bats in year two with the Jays. So maybe at bat 700 or so?

Thank goodness for the WBC.

He's had half a seasons worth of at bats. I find it hilarious that you draw a line that says Mateo and Stewart are too small a sample size but O'Hearn has shown enough you can throw out everything else he'd done in his career. What at bat made the difference? I'm guessing #233.

For the record I'm saying saying it's impossible that O'Hearn has figured something out. I'm just not in favor of throwing out data.

Mets must have "fixed" him.

Didn't they "fix" Mateo earlier in the year? Didn't they "fix" Voth last year?

Did you see the new Jaffe chat? Someone asked a question about an 29 year old player, a six year vet, who is having a breakthrough season. The player in question is of course DJ Stewart. Should the Mets throw out all the previous data on Stewart?

Yea, I'm always going to default to baseball age.

Yea, that's never happened before in the history of the game. A guy has never just had an outlier season that didn't mean his career had suddenly changed.