EricK
-
Posts
57 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Events
Posts posted by EricK
-
-
Based on the positional versatility and the upside potential, Vavra seems to be the choice (pending health issues). But the machinations that got O'Hearn here saddled Elias with a $1.4M guaranteed contract whether O'Hearn plays in AAA all year or not. To satisfy the contract, O'Hearn may have the advantage.
-
Orioles CEO/chairman John Angelos met with reporters (including The Baltimore Sun’s Nathan Ruiz and Rich Dubroff of BaltimoreBaseball.com) today to discuss a wide range of topics regarding the franchise, its offseason moves, and the bigger-picture question of the Orioles’ long-term future in Baltimore.
To the latter subject, Angelos reiterated his family’s commitment to the ownership of the Orioles, saying “I would say that there’s not a plan to change the principal ownership or the managing partnership and there would be no reason to.” While a new minority owner might be brought into the ownership group, Angelos noted that such a move wouldn’t necessarily be unusual, given that some of the original investors in the group “have transitioned out” in the 30 years since Peter Angelos (John’s father) first brought the franchise and become majority owner.
“It would be nice if we could attract strategic people who care about Baltimore, who care about the way we’re doing this now, who care about the example Camden Yards set and want to be part of it,” Angelos said. “That’s not necessary or a requisite, but we’re open to it. We have no plan to change or transition out of what we have today.”
There may be more that I am unaware of. But these paragraphs cause me concern. If the question about the "latter subject" (i.e. "the long-term future in Baltimore) is responded to by stating that the Angelos family remains committed to own the Orioles while new owners may be added, this a non answer as to whether the O's remain in Baltimore. Further, the third paragraph states "It would be nice" if they would "care about Baltimore".
-
1 hour ago, AnythingO's said:
Cute
. Is there a way that this MASN lawsuit "resolution" could only be directed toward MASN itself and its separate ownership group? Could such "resolution" perhaps lead to the dissolution of the O's-Nats partnership? In my non-lawyer brain I'm imagining a bill coming due that JA hasn't adequately prepared to pay so he might be forced to "sell" half of the RSN to the Nats. I get they already own probably 25% but Frobby would know exactly. Also, I realize PA is a large part of both ownership groups so indirect cost to the Angelos family fortunes.
I don't see any "resolution" in the MASN case touching MLB's agreement as to MASN and the original move. They'll decide as to how much should MASN pay the Gnats and O's per year and leave it there. I think the MASN split was originally 90/10 O's/Nats going to 67/33 over time. But MLB may have placed a future sale condition on resolving their (MLB) created issue (ask Spiritof66).
FWIW, I think any money currently at issue (i.e., the money that an arbitrator may dictate that MASN owes the Nats) should be in escrow. Perhaps as much as $20M per year from 2012-2017 (and presumably for later years with potentially similar numbers).
Many issues may come to a head when PA passes away and the O's are sold. But until then, we won't know.
-
24 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
I’d be irate if we signed Profar at this point.
Then I’d start laughing cause I’d just figure that Elias is trolling us at that point. Frazier and Profar in the same offseason? Hilarious, Elias. Hilarious.
Signing Profar would let Elias send Stowers down to AAA to be a left-handed bat in the first base/corner outfield group. Spending 1.4M guaranteed on O'Hearn, signing Mazara, Cordero, and Lester to minor-league contracts, and picking up Diaz weren't enough to supplement Cowser (and sometime in 2023 Kjersted). We may not be enough LH bats at AAA.
-
11 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
My Tinfoil Take is that they are going to try and get less oversite in how the money is spent so the owners can funnel as much of it as possible to themselves.
The $5 million to CollegeBound Foundation was just a smokescreen. Maybe $10 million to country music singer/songwriters is next. That's not much of the $600 million.
-
11 hours ago, spiritof66 said:
One thing John was right about: nobody knows how much of the Orioles is owned by Peter, John and Lou Angelos. The 70 percent John mentioned is lower than the guesses and estimates I've seen.
"Clancy came in as a 24% owner of the team when Peter Angelos bought the MLB franchise from Eli Jacobs in 1993 for $173 million. That would put Clancy's investment at about $42 million. Wanda got half of the author's stake in the team as part of their divorce settlement in 1999."
This is an old article. But unless part of the original 24% from Clancy (now split between Clancy's estate and ex-wife Wanda) was sold to Angelos, Angelos has at most 76%. The other listed owners appear to have small stakes for Angelos to have more than 70%.
-
8 hours ago, wildcard said:
So its NBC Sports that is reporting that Bemboom is on a minor league contract. That is one data point. I think we need conformation from other sites. But I hope its true.
MLB.com has Bemboon outrighted to Norfolk yesterday. Fangraphs has him off the 40-man as well.
https://www.mlb.com/transactions/2022/11/04
11/04/22 Baltimore Orioles sent C Anthony Bemboom outright to Norfolk Tides.
https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/depth-charts/orioles
-
2
-
-
6 hours ago, kaj21206 said:
I miss the media guides.
Me too. I've got a set going back to the 60s. They're online now. https://www.mlb.com/orioles/history/media-guides
-
2 hours ago, PHRESH said:
Man, this broadcast just sucks. Not a fan of having to set up an apple account and when I do, I have to listen to Melanie. Gonna be a long game.
I'm neutral as to Melanie. But she sounds great in comparison to the male announcer. He's horrible. Apple needs to get reasonable announcers if they're serious.
-
The AR decision is based on whether the next CBA is in place or not. If there is a stop work stoppage, it makes sense to leave AR down. AR could have at lot of experience with DL Hall, Gray Rod and others in the minors when the majors may be shut down. OTOH, if there is no work stoppage , AR gets called up when he is ready.
-
1
-
-
8 minutes ago, weams said:
The 26th man make league minimum in addition to the full payout for Davis Actually times three. So 1.8 if he gets cut.
I wonder how much it costs to insure Davis' contract. If he is cut, the O's can cancel the insurance policy and save money by not paying premiums. Cutting him might be close to a wash in terms of money. I don't think the money the O's would pay someone else is the issue in keeping Davis around.
-
3 hours ago, sportsfan8703 said:
These Villar threads really do the trick. Villar with a HR last night.
The Cubs have to really be kicking themselves. They tried to roll with what they had and went cheap with Tony Kemp as Util. Hoerner is a fine prospect but Villar would really be helping. Just think, they probably turned down even a Cashner like return.
Who was our last 25/25 guy? @DrungoHazewood
Manny did 20/20 in 2015.
Reggie Jackson (1976) 27 HR 28 SB
Brady Anderson was close in 1999 with 24 HR 36 SB
-
1
-
-
59 minutes ago, DrungoHazewood said:
Both sides have at least hinted around that the service time stuff is a problem for a while, so maybe they'll do something. But what's the fix? I like making everyone a free agent at 28, but I doubt that has any traction. Maybe you become a free agent seven years after you're drafted/signed, eight for high schoolers? I don't know what might be deemed acceptable.
The NHL 27 or 7 for free agency is along those lines. NHL teams only have one or two affiliates; so the long player-development process of MLB is different. But I could see the next MLB CBA being closer to the current NHL model than the counting days of MLB's current CBA.
-
2 hours ago, Roll Tide said:
There was a major issues of the distance between the two park. I remember them mentioning a stadium somewhere in Northern VA
http://www.welovedc.com/2011/02/10/looking-back-the-arlington-nationals/
Moving the Expos to Arlington, VA would have helped a little compared to DC (maybe with the Montgomery and PG county areas).
The below link has a rendering of a Norfolk stadium.
http://www.stadiumpage.com/stpages/virginia.html
2 hours ago, Roll Tide said:-
1
-
-
1 hour ago, OsFanSinceThe80s said:
Davis barring a positive drug test or other suspension is getting paid, and it's waste of time to discuss otherwise.
If there is a strike and Davis strikes with the other players, he won't be paid. But what happens if he is released before a potential strike? Would he still be on strike with the other players even if the O's released him? Or would the O's be on the hook for the guaranteed contract?
-
12 hours ago, MurphDogg said:
6. Alex Wells (pretty sure he is eligible, as he was signed in July 2015, but he didn't play until 2016)
MILB.com has Wells signing on August 29, 2015
http://www.milb.com/player/index.jsp?player_id=649144#/career/R/pitching/2019/ALL
August 29 was also the last day of the GCL Orioles season
https://www.baseballamerica.com/teams/3201/gcl-orioles/schedule/?year=2015
Assuming he signed later in the day after the season ended, 2015 does not count as the first of five years. So, he won't be eligible until after the 2020 season.
https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/explaining-the-rule-5-draft/
Also any players who have not been professionals long enough are also ineligible for the Rule 5 draft. For any pro who signed his initial contract as an 18-year-old or younger is eligible for the Rule 5 draft after their fifth professional season. Anyone who initially signed at 19 or older is eligible after their fourth professional season.
The wording of that is precise for a reason. If a player's first contract is signed where they are assigned to a team whose season has already ended, than that player's first counting season does not begin until the next season.
-
3
-
-
13 minutes ago, atomic said:
I dont see it. Almost every team sells their rights.
I'm not sure where you are coming from. Are you trying to say that the current MASN agreement is the equivalent of the O's only owning their own broadcast rights and the Nats owning their own with the ability to sell them to anyone?
-
42 minutes ago, atomic said:
But the Orioles Could have bid on Nationals broadcast rights on open market.
If the Nationals broadcast rights were available on the open market, the Nats could create their own regional sports network and "over pay" for those broadcast rights by 1% and come out very much ahead. Such a new RSN would still be profitable and the Nets would own all of it. The current MASN agreement is an advantage over the Nats having control over their own broadcast rights with any reasonable calculation of the broadcast rights.
The real question is whether the current MASN agreement adequately compensates the O's for the relocation of the Nats taking away a portion of the O's revenue.
-
1
-
-
32 minutes ago, atomic said:
I don’t understand what benefit MASN is to Orioles if they have to pay fair market vale for rights.
Because MASN is still profitable and the O's get a larger portion of the profits. Paying fair market value for the rights does not mean that MASN has to pay so much that it turns into a break-even corporation. Plus they can pay themselves a salary out of the MASN pot of money before determining the profits that are to be shared.
-
42 minutes ago, Redskins Rick said:
who did they bring up? I dont remember.
I wonder if this was a move to see what they had at AAA for next year?
They brought up recently acquired John Andreoli to take a look at him for an extra 12 days before Sept. 1. And conveniently drop Rickard to 2.120 when the super 2 cutoff has been in the range of 2.122 to 2.134 for the past few years.
-
1
-
-
1 hour ago, Redskins Rick said:
I think Rickard was the person that sent himself to AAA by his lack of production, as he batted .152 with 10 strikeouts in 33 at-bats
Rickard was 13 for his last 41 with 7 extra base hits when he was sent down in the middle of August.
-
3 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:
Geez! No team is playing service time games with a rule V player.
We did it to Rickard last year to leave him with 2 years and 120 days of service time (just below the super 2 cutoff).
-
1
-
Vavra vs. O’Hearn
in Orioles Talk
Posted
In other words, do you pay O'Hearn to be in the minors for $1.4M and pay Vavra the MLB league minimum or do you save some money and pay O'Hearn what you are obligated to pay him and send Vavra down to AAA at much less than the MLB league minimum. I think that is the question.