Tryptamine
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You guys are severely underestimating the package it would take for Soto. Remember that in the Miguel Cabrera trade the Tigers traded both Andrew Miller and Cameron Maybin. Andrew Miller was the #7 prospect in baseball and Cameron Maybin was the #8. Badenhop was kind of a nothing and Rabelo/De La Cruz were just middling prospects. Even ignoring the the last 3, that was two top 10 prospects in the game. Also, as of now, Soto has been the better player. He currently sports a 152 wRC+ which is 9th in baseball. He's doing that with a .244 babip which is nearly .100 points below his usual babip. You would honestly be talking about something like Grayson+Gunnar and then another good, not great prospect.
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Just now, OsFanSinceThe80s said:
Seems to be some speculation that Collier might remain in college for another year over getting drafted. I can't finding anything concrete on it.
He has a commitment, it would be 2 years
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1 minute ago, lovetoaster said:
I have no idea what Harold Reynolds is talking about sometimes.
He's honestly completely awful at his job
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Just now, Chaka Garcia said:
Who's left that highly rated that we should be waiting to drop?
No major slips now.
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Collier almost has to be going back to school unless a team is willing to trash their entire draft for him
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Collier and Parada in free fall
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Unless they have an over slot agreement, terrible. Absolutely terrible.
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Just now, Pushmonkey said:
How many rounds are tonight?
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Just now, Big Mac said:
Rangers egregiously drafting for need. I assume they took him because they thought he was the most ML ready pitcher in the draft.
If they believe his shoulder is healthy, he's absolutely worth the pick. The stuff is very good.
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Not surprised, the fans pretty much hate the owners. Between the Ricketts crying poor while trying to throw billions of dollars to buy a soccer team, being just in general trash human beings and being in yet another rebuild, interest in the team is as low as it has been in quite a while.
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6 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:
Someone talk me into Brooks Lee.
He's a safe bet, as far as prospects go, to be a solid 3-4 fwar performer with outlier 5fwar seasons. That's extremely valuable. He just doesn't have star power some of the others have.
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14 minutes ago, NelsonCruuuuuz said:
Yeah, I am not opposed to Snell but don’t get the love fest.
3.41 xERA, 3.56FIP, 3.74 xFIP, 3.73 SIERA. In other words, his underlying peripherals suggest he has been significantly better than his 4.66 ERA.
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Green has the biggest ceiling and loudest tools no doubt, but he also has the biggest flaw amongst the top 3 and half those loud tools don't matter if you can't put the ball in play. I've been reading that his stock is sliding a bit and Collier is unlikely to make it out of the top 4 now. I see basically zero chance Lesko or Rocker slide out of the top 25, and most likely top 20, unless they've got a pre draft deal worked out and their agent is steering them to a specific team. Neto is a name I can definitely see going in the top 7 for teams looking to save. He's a guy that all the driveline types absolutely adore.
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28 minutes ago, sportsfan8703 said:
He’s an everyday RF that Switch hits, hits for power, and is used to hitting in the MOO. I’d like to keep him for next year depending on the return. We have Stowers to replace Mancini. The DH spot would then be rotational. However, we don’t have a sure fire bat to replace both Santander and Mancini. 2023 should be about competing. Maybe Vavra is in the DH mix as well.
A realistic deal that I would make is if we could get back Landon Knack(#7) and Clayton Beeter(#15)from the LAD for him. Those are two guys that are sort of spare parts for LAD but would be SP/RP options for us in 2023+.
I don't think that's realistic at all honestly. I don't think you get Knack solo, let alone Beeter as well. You're talking about a guy who is tied at #201 among MLB hitters with 100 or more PAs for 2021 fWAR at .5. In 2021 he was tied for #301. Even if we focus solely, on his bat this year, which is the only valuable part of his game, his 110 wRC+ is tied for #124.
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I don't think Santander has the value you guys think he does. .5 fWAR in 76 games this year is 1.1 fWAR pace over 162 games. He's put up 1.6fWAR over he last 3 years spanning 223 games. His LD% is down, his IFFB% has almost doubled, His Hard% is down and his Soft% is up, so the .249 babip isn't even really getting unlucky, it's just from bad contact.
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1 hour ago, Frobby said:
I just will never understand this argument. Finding a great hitting 2B is really hard. The average 2B this year has a .651 OPS. If you believe deeply in Termarr’s bat, the fact that he’s destined for 2B shouldn’t be a big impediment. And, he’s expected to be a plus defender at 2B, not just some hack.
It's very easy to understand. Unless you believe Johnson has a significantly better bat than Jones or Holliday, who both play positions at the top of the defensive spectrum, then you are not getting as much value. It's the same reason that you don't consider a 1B at 1.1 unless they are absolute monsters with the bat. Also, remember that Johnson is very young and already relegated to 2B in a draft where a huge amount of the players will be listed as SS and CFers but be immediately moved off that position once drafted. If he keeps falling down the defensive spectrum the bat needs to be better and better to justify the pick.
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As an outsider, If I'm the GM I can't imagine taking anyone other than Holliday or Jones at 1.1. Parada is out because I don't take catchers that high unless they're generational talents. Termarr is out because even if his bat is 1.1 worthy, he's young and already profiling as a 2B. Green has amazing upside, but the risk is also far too extreme to take at 1.1. Lee is a really safe bet to be a productive major leaguer but I think his upside lacks in comparison to all the others and Collier doesn't have enough track record for me to take. Berry is just a super vanilla pick. The only scenario I could see underslotting at 1.1 being an option would be if you could snag someone like Lee/Johnson with a significant discount and use it to make a predraft agreement with someone like Lesko and have Lesko throw out the usual "don't draft me, I'm going back to school" stuff that players do to direct themselves to certain teams.
On a side note, I'm really really hoping one of Johnson or Collier is there for the Cubs at 1.7.
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Kikuchi. Velocity is there, stuff is there, a team with a good pitch lab is going to turn him into a strong #2/3.
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50 minutes ago, NCRaven said:
Even with Stroman, there is no way we would compete for a playoff spot in 2022. It's unlikely we'd be quite that good in 2023 even if all of Rutschman, Westburg, Henderson, Stowers, and Cowser made it onto the roster by the end of that season - and what are the odds that all of them make it by then. So this contract would pay Stroman $50 million to pitch in two non-competitive season just to see him walk away or hold us up for a more expensive extension just as we need him to anchor a winning rotation. How would that make any sense at all?
If anyone wants to argue that we should have tried to sign him to a 4/$90mil or 5/$110mil without the opt outs, then I'm on your side. But not the contract that he signed with the Cubs. I'm not sure that contract makes sense for Chicago and I am sure that it doesn't for the O's.
With the enormous amount of available money, and that they and the Yankees are the most heavily involved for Correa, it makes sense.
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Sounds like a decent chance Rodon and Kikuchi are coming off the market tonight.
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44 minutes ago, Frobby said:
I know you’re just instigating here, but 91 losses isn’t 115. Not close. That’s what Elias walked into. And he didn’t really do a teardown; that had been done at the trade deadline before he arrived. You could say he finished off the teardown, but all the really choice assets had been dealt already.
It will be interesting to see where the Cubs go from here.
They pretty much have to get a SS, and while I don't see them giving Correa 350M, there has been interest in Trevor Story. Add him, Conforto and Kikuchi and the Cubs are decent for '22, with a lot of money open for '23.
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Two teams with super deep pockets. I'd call it 50/50 at best that either reach FA.
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I truly truly hate that website, not because it tries to value players, but because so many people try to use it to justify trades that just have zero chance in the real world, but they insist it does because the numbers are similar. This is not directed at the poster above, it's just something I've seen dozens of times on various sites and it's always suggesting heavily lopsided deals.
Soto & Ohtani Might Be Available, interested?
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This has become such a ridiculous sentiment over the last week. The guy turns down a contract and suddenly he only cares about himself. Lets ignore that the AAV of the contract was 29.3M(not even in the top 20 AAV amongst current contracts) and it would lock him up for 15 years so that there was basically zero chance he'd ever get another contract and that it was heavily backloaded, which if you know anything about the time value of money, makes the contract significantly less valuable. There's also the possibility that due to the Nationals MLB team being awful and the farm system being terrible too, that he just wants to be on a team that is competitive in the next like 4 or 5 years.