Ohfan67

Well, he did have surgery in June of that year so SOME of it was true.

Is it a given that TJ surgery is the answer? This (the flexor mass thing) has become a fairly frequent diagnosis for pitchers but is TJ a common outcome?

Sounds like a hernia. He will probably be pretty inactive for a month after the surgery. Then rehab starts.

That's crazy talk! That would NEVER happen!! Get real!! ?

I'm still skeptical that the O's would pull the trigger on anything less than a complete salary dump. And even then I think DD wouldn't do it. But I've been wrong a lot, so...

Yeah, I find this thing very fascinating/fun, but I wouldn't invest a penny of my money in it.

You really think the O's would have traded for him if Kim had gone to Norfolk? DD doesn't seem the nostalgic type.

It would be fun to see the Yankees and Boston get hit with huge penalties when their players are caught. There would be a really fun thread on OH where we were all giggling and laughing. But it would suck when the O's got hammered and there would be an outcry from fans that it is unfair because the club didn't know player x was doping. Can you imagine the 100+ page thread that would start on OH!? I would like to see a penalty for the club, but MLB owners will never collectively admit that they profit from PED use.

Giggle, giggle.

Vatech-I think you are correct, unless they retain shares that they can sell at peak prices like corporations with their own stock. It's a fun concept whatever the deatails.

This company has just created a whole new sports "thing" for discussion boards, blogs, sports radio, etc.

I'm sure these guys calculated the probabilities of player Y making X dollars before they made the deal. I'm sure the probability they calculate for a player and the company's estimates of what they will make by over selling the "stock" basically sets their price for the 10% investment. Very fun stuff to think about, for sure. For someone like Schoop I think the probability would have to be pretty high (like there's a 90% or higher probability that Schoop will make that much money). If the player was flashier and super well known, then the company will probably make more money from selling over valued stock and could accept a lower probability.

Maybe they buy an insurance policy on the player? Fun stuff to think about.

p.s. they can also invest money they get now from stock holders to make cash. pretty interesting idea (from the companies perspective, I think you would be better off betting on beetle races or a random number generator than investing in the future salaries of Schoop et al.)

Some of you guys are misjudging how the company is going to make their money. The company doesn't really need to recoup 4.9 million from his salary to make money, they need the selling price of his "stock" and the amount recoup to be greater than 4.9 million. They are banking that most people purchase high priced "stocks" in the players and then the "stocks" end up being worth way less than the selling price. They don't need Schoop to actually earn 50+ million to make money.

He probably gets to use his groin a lot more than you did at that age.

I hate when that happens.

The cost of free agents seems to be increasing quite a bit this year.

finish line, not finish like. darn typos!

I think that means they have played very poorly against good teams. The program includes how they have fared against difference levels of competition, the quality of the teams they will face the rest of the season, and the quality of the teams they are likely to face in the playoffs. The percentages are based on the simulation runs, so that 0.1% Division probability for Seattle must indicate that they haven't won a lot of games against good competition. And this estimate would have a sizable standard error, so the model is really probably saying their probability of winning the division is somewhere between zero and like 25%. I don't think they include standard error or confidence interval in their results, but it exists. As it gets closer to the finish like the estimates, of course, will get better and better.

Agree totally. Plus the O's are also including in their decision making process the probability that a deadline deal actually helps the team. Just anecdotally it seems that less than half of all deadline deals really improve the team getting the "impact" player. That includes a lot of trades involving fantastic players.

Jays are 60-50. Typo. Thanks for posting this. It will be interesting to see if the A's pound on LAA a bit and reduce their odds. If so, then an AL East team still has a shot at the wildcard.

The bat toss was his way of breaking out of his slump. He was working on the mechanics of his swing. Yeah, that's the ticket.

Buck Showalter should get a lot of votes for manager of the year.

Good stuff Frobby...but this is such a painful thread to read. It's like an autopsy report but for a patient that is still barely alive.