Meadows went on a tear for a month. Still doesn't project as any stud. He's better than anyone we got, but Archer was getting a bigger return whether we thought so or not.
We likely locked up VVM and got 4 legit pieces. JCE and Cumberland are both rock solid pieces. What the hell are you talking about is the question.
Also, one is a damn good RP. The other arm is playing up this year and has upside.