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Injuries have nothing to do with it. It has to do with effectiveness. Players are on pitch limits to maximize their effectiveness over an entire 162 game season of competitive innings. Seems straightforward. It's bizarre to bring up Bundy and Harvey's minors workload in a discussion about what happened in last night's game. They have nothing to do with one another.

And then the O's overworked him when he came back and now his arm is shot. There was nothing that was "babying" about Hyde's decision.

Ruiz made a nice play in really the only play he was challenged. Martin fielded a line drive and calmly turned a DP. OF was fine. Rickard made a really nice diving catch but also allowed Judge to take third on a really weak throw. We got beat by the shift a few times which was unfortunate. A few of those get fielded and we lose by 3 instead of 5 lol.

The brothers wanted to play in Florida from the beginning and they got paid more than they would be worth if they signed in the next period. I will ask you pointedly, how much more money would you have given them than the 6 million they got from Miami? Give me names of players that you would sign that are available right now and for how much. It is insane you are critiquing Elias for not doing anything (That's not even true anyway, they are signing players) when he was handed the reins VERY late in a process that literally takes years to get ahead of. Take these reactionary posts to Facebook.

I mean this respectfully, but I'm glad you aren't the GM then. Given the nature of the market now, that's a gross overpay. I don't agree that he's near ML ready and I also don't agree that there's a "good chance" he ends up as a better CF than Mullins. He's basically 45 FV at this point (he just got injured) which is worse than Hays and Diaz. And given that he was a package deal, you'd have to give a million+ to his brother who probably wouldn't even sniff the O's top 30. It's fine to be of the opinion that the O's should just blow through this money for the sake of it but at least be honest and acknowledge it isn't a "bargain." It's a highly reactionary way of doing things. Can you link me to any reputable reporting that Villalobos is looking to sign in this period?

It's been reported that the Orioles offered Mesa millions of dollars after spending hundreds of thousands on some of the late bloomers left. They offered plenty of money. The Mesas and Gaston chose to play in Florida. That's where they wanted to be. Why do people insist on living in the pretend world where these guys don't have any sort of agency and cannot choose to play in a location that is much more desirable for them? Additionally, how much would you have given up for Mesa? He's a fourth OF profile and is already 22. Is it prudent to just offer way more than he's worth? I admittedly know nothing about Villalobos. But as a rule of thumb, I'm against spending just to spend. There has to be a valuation scale and I trust Koby Perez and his track record to make that call. There's 0 proof that the sons are significantly restricted Elias from spending money internationally. At least give him the start of a new cycle to make that proclamation for Pete's sake.

That's not true in the slightest. A contingent of the FO went to scout him in person. Not thinking a not very projectable slap hitting SS is worthy of 2.5 million+ does not mean they aren't "interested" in Sanchez. He also might not have any interest in coming here when he will certainly have more choices in a few months. By and large there aren't any good players out there. That's just a fact. And there won't be many there next period either given the nature of this process. This has been said in here and elsewhere numerous times. After DD, shouldn't fans be happy that Elias is being transparent and not just blowing smoke?

Did you not read anything he said? They are spending money on the international players that are left. There are not any good players left. With your vast knowledge of the international market please explain what you would do that Koby Perez isn't?

The amount has been reported as 500k.

Certainly worth more of a look than Eric Young. Had a 124 WRC+ last year and he's still young. It seems to be a bit of a surprise to Jays fans that they DFA'd him.

IMO it has nothing to do with that. He doesn't have anywhere near enough batspeed to hit major league FBs at this point in his career. If you throw 92+ he's whiffing. And on top of that, he has terrible plate coverage. Anything inside, he's turning on and grounding into the shift. Anything on the outside, he's caught looking. He's just the worst player in baseball and really there's nothing the O's can do except cut him loose in the middle of this season or hope he retires.

Neither are Austin Wynns, Caleb Joseph and last but least Andrew Susac. It probably wasn't great for a rookie's confidence to send him to AAA from one of the worst teams in MLB history.

He should not step foot in the outfield again in his career. Very solid player as a DH/1B and easy to root for but I have no faith in him having much value if Buck is still the manager and still putting him in the OF.

One four inning appearance against the worst team in baseball doesn't really prove much. A lot of people don't consider him much of a SP prospect anymore. The stuff is there for a dominant reliever but I doubt he has the makeup of a starter.

No offense but stat scouting is almost completely worthless when you just acquire a prospect. Many people are high on Ortiz and some think he was easily the second best prospect we got right behind Diaz. Schoop played at an all star caliber level for one year. That's it. We have a body of work of 4 years now and only one of those years he showed the plate discipline necessary to be a perennial all star. It has completely regressed this year and his defensive capabilities are average to fringe average and dwindling. He's already reached his ceiling.

https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/ranking-the-prospects-traded-at-the-deadline-2/ Very interesting how different fangraph's rankings are than others. Diaz is no surprise at 3 but Cumberland at 7 was surprising to me.

OK, so what have the O's done to muck about with Gausman's pitches? He's had two different pitching coaches and has struggled with both. He's peripherals aren't that great this year and Camden Yards is hardly an excuse because he's much worse on the road. Sometimes these guys don't have the makeup to realize their potential

Didn't expect to get a top 100 guy back for a rental in this market so I'm content. There are other pieces to trade people....much more work to be done

It's extremely hard to feel bad for someone who's going to make $160 million while being awful at his job. Most people in the stands thanklessly work themselves to the bone for 50K and so they resent watching CD aimlessly flail pitches nowhere near the zone. Add in the fact that there are serious concerns about his effort and it's clear he's not a completely altruistic character. The fans have every right to boo. Frankly, they should. It's ridiculous he's still getting regular playing time this late in the season. He's the worst player in baseball (maybe in history).