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13 minutes ago, lfallo1 said:
I dunno .. Didn't think Cal was making any sorta strong argument against bringing him up in the first place or even challenging the move. Felt like a light interview and he seemed to just be agreeing with sending him back down after the initial struggles. The overall tone felt like "sure, he got sent down .. he'll be fine"
Pretty much what I got out of it as well. He was probably rushed, which I think we can all agree on in hindsight, but he didn't say anything controversial.
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Just now, Can_of_corn said:
Just left the key part for those that don't care much for reading.
Per usual......You can discount the words of perhaps the greatest Oriole of all time just to make internet drama.
I sir, will not.
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1 hour ago, bpilktree said:
I was gonna post a thread about that in general not just Orioles though. The last 7 years or so if you look at the top 10 prospects those that were brought up by 21 or before seemed to struggle once they got to the majors and some have completely fizzled out. Granted there is exceptions but just Bs a majority a lot of the younger hitters who got to the majors seemed to come up short of reaching the hype they came to majors with.
Baseball relies so much on mental and technical abilities that it makes it hard to judge against the other big 4 sports of football, Bball, and hockey. Which are much more reliant on pure size or physical athletic ability.
I think of baseball very similar to the way I think about golf. Both involve hitting a very small ball with oddly shaped clubs. It is not so much about pure athletic ability as it is repetition and mental strength. Of course in the end the best athletes in baseball do well, but how many great golfers are there at age 20, 21, 22, or even 23? Not many. It really requires mental toughness as much as anything and as a 20 year old that can be hard to come by without experience.
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2 hours ago, Jim'sKid26 said:
The late 1970s/early 1980s in the minor leagues is the experience on which Cal is basing his assessment. I sense a bit of primacy bias here. There have been many recent articles talking about how different AAA is now compared to the past. I'm not certain I find his opinion to be all that valuable in this circumstance.
Now, @Tony-OH; your opinion on whether you think Jackson was promoted too quickly would be interesting to me.
No offense to Tony OH....who I think does an amazing job on this website and is a standup person AND is a great judge of talent.....but are we really getting to the point where we are discounting the words of a lifelong player, iron man, one of the best players of all timezzz, and Hall of Famer?
Over an interwebz guy?
I am lost here....completely and utterly lost.
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1 minute ago, OnlyOneOriole said:
Looking back it is hard to argue with Cal here.
Tremendous talent but sometimes I see him out there and he looks like a little kid playing with adults.
Give him most of the summer and see where he is in August. And I still think his leg kick is more of a detriment than a help. I went back and looked at his minor league highlights from last year and he had zero leg kick. In fact his right foot never really left the ground other than raising it up its toe a little.
Why they decided to do the high step is a mystery to me.
Take that back. I went back and looked at some more and it looked like he started doing a smaller version of the leg kick about halfway through last year. So this is not completely new to him.
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Looking back it is hard to argue with Cal here.
Tremendous talent but sometimes I see him out there and he looks like a little kid playing with adults.
Give him most of the summer and see where he is in August. And I still think his leg kick is more of a detriment than a help. I went back and looked at his minor league highlights from last year and he had zero leg kick. In fact his right foot never really left the ground other than raising it up its toe a little.
Why they decided to do the high step is a mystery to me.
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28 minutes ago, gtman55 said:
He was rushed through the minors a bit too quickly I think. Don't be surprised if we don't see him up here until sometime in the 2025 season.
Very possible.
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2 for 15 so far this week which includes a home run and 3 days of 0 fer's.
He has definitely hit some sort of barrier here at the AAA/MLB level. He is doing well if judged for what would be considered the average minor league player. But obviously he, the Os, and the fans don't consider him the average minor league player.
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Do the MFY's ever lose?
LOL this is insanity.
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7 hours ago, bpilktree said:
I still predict he is back pitching by September this season not sure if he will be back enough to pitch in majors though if we make a playoff run who knows. Smoltz was back in 13 months. Strausburg in 12 months. Weighnwright was 13 months but that was more start of the season as he was pitching in spring training 12 months after his surgery on Feb 28. Rich Hill was back in 11 months. All those were 10+ years ago so have we improved the technology and understanding to make the return even shorter? I would think 10 months and he is pitching in live action if he has no set backs is possible.
I would agree. Not sure if he can pitch this season or not (probably not), but the way they do that surgery now along with the healing powers of platelet injections?
A pitcher can be back throwing and almost 100% within 8 months. I have the exact same injury as Felix along with a bone chip in my right elbow and I was told if I have the surgery I will feel basically brand new after 6-8 months.
Granted I am not trying to throw 95 MPH 8 months later.
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10 minutes ago, waroriole said:
Whose brilliant idea was it to bring back a guy who started out 2-27 while he was still hurt?
The O's hitters and the O's management seem to be in a MJ self induced haze right now.
No one is hitting, of those that are actually playing, and the O's brass is doing none of their players any favors with how they are 'managing' them.
The only thing I really liked today was moving JW to leadoff and GH to cleanup. Give that a few weeks.
But there is no way Mullins, Hayes, Urias, and I could name 3 others.....should be playing right now. They are auto outs and just killing the team.
Bring back up Heston. Let him play for 25 of the next 30 games. Bring up Mayo. Get him in the lineup almost every day at various positions. Let Stowers play.
As the S Koreans like to day.....it doesn't matter. There is no way shape or form that guys like Hayes, Mullins, and the other vets are going to win you a WS.
Play the young guys now while still winning and by Sept they may have a true WS contender.
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17 minutes ago, Roy Firestone said:
I dont get this...
It's a long season. I have no issue with it.
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Starting to get a tiny bit concerned about the O's offense as a whole.
Let this be a reverse jinx lock.
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6 hours ago, baltfan said:
Gunnar now has 2 hits (2/53) in all of the losses combined. His batting average is .037. Of course you would expect his average to be lower in losses but this seems rather extraordinary. Mountcastle, who I randomly checked is hitting .244 in losses. Even Mullins, who is barely at .200 overall, is hitting .135 (5/37).
Good post.
Yeah I have noticed he has been really REALLY cold in almost all of the Os loses. When he hits the Os seem to win most of the time.
When he doesn't hit? They lose almost all of the time. Odd to see a team so reliant on one player the Os are with Gunnar.
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Just now, OnlyOneOriole said:
Unless injuries or management screws this up, we should have a min of 5 years or really good baseball.
I feel the same way about the Colts. (not that many of you care)
I meant "OF really good baseball".
Not sure why I can't edit anymore.
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Unless injuries or management screws this up, we should have a min of 5 years or really good baseball.
I feel the same way about the Colts. (not that many of you care)
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I am fine with taking JH over Jones.
IMO in 4 years this will be validated.
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I think he has been playing D just fine.
Give him more at bats and time in the field and IMO he will be a Very Solid if not much above average player.
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35 minutes ago, Uli2001 said:
Cowser over the last 15 days:
avg = .152
OBP = .273
SLG = .217
OPS= .490
K = 18The strange thing is he is slumping strictly going by the numbers, but he doesn't seem to be slumping by his swing and how he is hitting the ball. For example with Holliday when he was up here I felt like there as no way he was going to hit the ball. With Cowser it is different. By appearances and swing he seems.....rather good.
I am kind of going through the same thing right now. I average 225 or so in numerous bowling leagues, but the past 3 weeks I am only around 210 even though I feel I am throwing the ball great.
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1 hour ago, Roy Firestone said:
I think the 7 inning three hitter with no walks or runs was incredible last week against the Reds.Its just not sustainable. I'm preparing for a slight regress. I'll say 5 and a third , 3 runs, 5 hits 2 walks. We need to score more runs to keep our bullpen from having meltdowns late in the game. Hopefully, we'll score enough runs for Means to keep him competitive today.
Reverse John Means George Constanza Roy Firestone lock bet of the week?
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9 minutes ago, Frobby said:
Mullins has a .432 OPS since April 16, covering 74 PA. His K rate isn’t terrible in that span (24.3%) but he seems to be hitting a ton of grounders to 2B and pop-ups. Hopefully he’ll snap out of it soon.
The odd thing about him is he has a pretty compact and easy to replicate swing. He shouldn't have these massive up and down streaks that he does. But he has had them since he was a rookie so we can't say its just an age thing.
Hard to explain how he can be so good and then so bad with not much in between.
Unless it is all in his head. But even then he seems like a pretty calm, cool, and collected guy.
Maybe he doesn't feel confident batting in the 8 or 9 slot.
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Mullins has always been like this. VERY streaky. Remember when he first got called up how hot he was and then a few months later he had to be sent all the way down to AA ball because of how bad he was?
And he has gone through other streaks like this as well. I actually think this could work to the Os benefit as they are winning without him playing well. Like a beaten down stock with an RSI near 15, he is bound to rebound at sometime here in the near to midterm future.
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I would do the full George Constanza opposite and try Mullins back at lead off.
If everything up to this point you have done is wrong, the opposite must be right!
It will be a Cedric Mullins Festivus for the Rest of Us.
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Only 1 for 5 tonight with 2 strikeouts but 2 runs scored.
I think he is on the upswing. Maybe by August or Sept he might have enough seasoning to be able to come up and help the big club.
Cal thinks Holiday moved to fast through the system
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I didn't want to say it, but since your brought it up.....I agree. I have been involved in the fitness industry as both a person who has worked out with heavy weights for years, a company level as I used to own a supplement company, and a social media level as I know many of the social influencers involved in the fitness industry.
I can tell you that squatting that amount and even further dead lifting that amount, even for a fervent power lifter is very very rare. Let alone for someone who weighs 180 pounds like JH, who is worth many millions, and what makes it even more unlikely is there is no way IN H E L L that the O's brass is going to let him try and DL 700 pounds. We are talking snap city when it comes to the back DLing that amount. Just no way he could even do that based on his build, which is ok but nothing great. Plus even IF he could, the Os would never let him. End of story.
Here is one of the stronger guys I know on you tube who is around JH's weight, actually 10 pounds more, and it took years and years of training to DL 600 pounds for him.
Yet somehow a guy with JHs build is Deadlifting 700 at the age of 20? Righttttttt lol.