OnlyOneOriole

Yup and yuppers.

Pitched pretty well. Not awesome but good enough to win. Can't really complain imo.

Well, that is that. One of the worst hitting/batting games I have seen this year. They had no shot since the opening pitch....for whatever reason.

I don't mean suckers in a bad way. More like they liked to be liked by the rich and famous and feel important because of it. It is just human nature. It is why sites like ONLY FANS do so well. Mainly the women. So many men just want to be acknowledged by a pretty gjrl that they will pay money and humiliate themselves to have that happen. Same on you tube with the Patreon's.

The one thing I am a little concerned about is Gunnar is 5 for his last 33. It may be time to drop him in the lineup to 3rd or 4th, where imo he should be anyway. Bat Mateo or Mullins leadoff.

Not saying they won't win this game, but sometimes over an extended schedule like what MLB has.....you just get beat. Even the best teams are doing great to win 100 games. Which means they still lose 62 games. Which is well over 1/3 of all their games. Is what it is and on to the next.

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I guess that is my point. If he wasn't a nationally known journalist who happened to be an Oriole fan but instead was just a normal everyday poster? Would you say he is royalty? I think we know the answer. He would not be. You know that. And again, I really like Roy. He is a super nice guy. I deal a lot in social media via you tube and instagram influencers from my part ownership in a fitness/cbd company, and I see this all of the time. Social media people, most especially hot women but also pseudo celebs like Roy, get every break in the book when it comes to online postings. People want to talk to them and get acknowledged by them. It makes them feel good. Hence why we pay to use them to promote products. Because people are suckers.

Possibly even worse. I was a kid when the Os won all the time....every time. In the 80s. I was spoiled. 90s were ok. 2000s total disaster. Mid 2010s a pleasant surprise. Late 2010s another disaster. Now? Walk into the light.......

Yeah let's just call that the Dark Ages. We saw a light at the end......way way at the end. But it was a long walk to get to that light.

I understand. I am strictly talking about performance. Hard to prove either way what he did or didn't do and to take away what he did after being traded from the Os? I will just say good job Steve. Stowers reminds me of him in how he plays.

Great avi name btw.

You put into words what I was trying to convey better than I did. He is like the O's hangout mascot. He is so emo and trollish without trying to be trollish that it works for him.

Let me make this clear. I like Roy. He in no way should be banned. Not sure what else I can say.

Agree. I think he could be really good. Almost like a Steve Finley guy. A spark plug type. But it is hard to tell when he doesn't really get a chance. And I get that. Players like Santander and Mullins are proven. And I like both. Hard to take them out. Stowers to me is a really good add in with a top O's prospect on a trade to get a top tier elite guy. Either pitcher or position player.

Bingo.

Well, if you look back on prior posts that I have made to Roy? First I always say I really like him and respect him as a person and a journalist. I did specifically say in ONE prior post that he makes a lot of emo posts that are almost trolling in nature because of their extreme back and forth. He can go from the Orioles are the best team ever to getting swept by the Yankees and they have no shot to win anything. He has done this 100000000 times. Which is fine. I like Roy and he is very fervent and emotional about the Os. He lives and dies with them and posts as such. My point was if it was anyone else making those same posts? I have a feeling the reaction would not be so......muted. For example I made a thread last year in July or August that the Os would not win the WS, probably would not win a playoff series, and had a slight chance of missing the playoffs totally. Very slight is what I said. I also said that 'next year'.....as in the year we are in now, with the growth of the younger players like Cowser and Gunnar and hopefully with the addition of an ace (which we got with Burnes) the Os had a serious chance to win it all. For making those bold predictions? Which were all very logical? I got crucified and almost banned on here. Literally for that. That specific thread. Which in no way was anti Oriole. So you make the call.

My final post to you. One, you again, just can't help yourself with the insults. And two, you are dead wrong about pedigree and just too bull headed to see any side but your own. Have fun insulting other people but I am done with you.

Great point. If he can adjust, I would think JH can.

Of course you would say that. You always have a snarky remark. I take the time to write out a thoughtful response with zero personal attacks toward you but you just can't help yourself. Seen it a million times from you towards lots of other posters. I think it is better that you and I do not converse. I can hold to that. I doubt that you can.

See I disagree. As a race horse trainer and owner who has trained 100s and 100s of horses and who has bought many yearlings and older horses, you 100% have to look at pedigree when buying a yearling, and you mix pedigree and past performance history when buying a horse that has already raced before. That is really your only way to judge future performance. I am not going to spend $50,000 on a horse with a sire like Amanda's Cadet, who was a poorly gaited horse I owned, but I would strongly consider it if the sire was Western Hanover. Add in your ability to train and bring out the best in the horse and you make a judgement on what you think the horse will do in the future. For example, I once traded the horse I mentioned above, Amanda's cadet, to another trainer for an On the Road Again sired horse. On the Road Again is one of the greatest harness horses ever and he almost always had fast offspring. But this horse that I traded for, the son of On the Road again named Jbs Expressway, was at the time 4 years old and had done nothing. Maybe had made $10,000 TOTAL up until then. But man he was a beautifully built horse and I knew with his lineage that he had the potential to be really good. I traded the Cadet horse for JB, made a few changes, and he won his first 6 races for me and went on to make a ton of money for me. He always had the pedigree, he just needed a change of scenery. In Heston's case (btw there used to be a very fast horse called Heston Blue Chip), he has the pedigree and the past performance. Trading him for these 2 relievers would be like trading a $100,000 stakes horse for two 6 year olds that up until this year had done nothing. Sure they are faster right now but they never showed it before. You just cannot do that. If you are going to trade quality, or in the case with Heston 'potential quality' with a college and minor league history to back it up, you had better make damn sure you get proven quality back. Those 2 relievers are not proven quality.

Yeah I grew up in MI and would watch him on tv all of the time. Very strange stance to say the least.

Well again if you compare him to that video I posted from about 5 months ago, his leg kick went from kind of an inch off the ground slide to a foot high raise, hold, float, levitate, and step forward. I would guess they did that to get him ready to swing sooner but it seems to be having the opposite effect as he seems late on a lot of pitches. To me it doesn't look natural. Almost like he has to think about holding the foot up. And you never want to think when hitting. You just, as the Joker said, "DO".

No one. But my point is he was drafted second for a reason (past performance and talent) and has given the Os no reason to doubt him moving ahead. In fact considering his health issues after he was drafted? I would say he has done exceptional. He could be a locked in corner outfielder with plus power for years. All star is his ceiling. I would not trade that for 2 middle relievers who on the other hand do not have the pedigree that Heston does and who up until this year have had so so minor league careers. Way too much risk that they regress imo. Especially for having to give up on a very promising outfielder.

Difference is Heston has performed so far in the minors and looks as though he is starting to get his feet under him with the parent club. He has given the O's no reason to not expect him to do well into the future. Especially in 2025 when he will probably be a starter.