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3 hours ago, Yardball85 said:
LOL. Generally in this business, when trusted reporters like Britt Ghiroli, etc. report something, it is true, not just crap from third hand rumors.
Thanks for being the idiot John Angelos defender I referenced before though!
To be fair, all the reporting being done is based off anonymous sources reporting on a rumor. I don't know if it's true. It seems too ridiculous of a reason to be true. I believe that he was probably suspended. I just can't buy the rumored reason. The Orioles rep, when asked, basically admitted that he was suspended. However, they did not admit that it was because of what he said on air about the team's improved record at the Trop. I just think there has to be more to it. Who knows? I've been wrong before.
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Someone just posted the segment (on Twitter) from the game where KB was talking about the O's improved record at the Trop. I'm sorry but I refused to believe this. He very well may be suspended but I can't buy this is the reason why. It was a produced segment. There was a MASN graphic on screen, of which he was reading. Sorry, not buying it...
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Just now, dystopia said:
If it weren’t for his last 2 years and the Britton thing I think it would be a blowout. I don’t think it’s clear cut but I do think the good outweighs the bad.
I don't know. I just think certain things should outweigh the others.
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2 minutes ago, rm5678 said:
Has anyone checked to see if it's true for games at the Trop?
Fine I'll check
. He had to be talking about at the Trop. Because they're 4-2 there this season and were a combined 3-16 the previous two seasons.
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The results of this poll really kind of surprise me. I would expect maybe 90/10 yes/no because there's always people who like to be contrarian. But this...It's kind of like some of us had different experiences as an Orioles fan.
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For PBP guys, I don't really need that much from them as far as calling the action. I can see what's going on. I just want to find them entertaining and Kevin and Ben (and Jim when he's there) are highly entertaining. Kevin cracks me up. I get it that not everyone wants that sort of thing but it works for me.
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24 minutes ago, Malike said:
I'm still trying to wrap my mind around that statement. Did he get suspended for it being false? As far as I can tell the Orioles are 6-3 vs the Rays this year and were 9-10 vs them last year.
I'm guessing (if the rumor is true, I don't really believe it) that he was referring to wins at Tropicana Field. But even that I'm not sure is accurate as I don't feel like looking it up.
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For the people that say NO: Does JJ belong in the Orioles HOF? His and Buck's resumes are basically the same. They were apart of bringing winning and the playoffs back to the city of Baltimore.
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I'll bottomline it. We suffered through 14 straight abysmal losing seasons until Buck came along and helped the Orioles first get a WC in 2012 and then win the AL East after 17 years in 2014. I was a grown adult man, who openly wept when we clinched a playoff berth. I don't care about anything else. He's a Baltimore Orioles legend and definitely an Orioles HOFer.
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If they want to hold a kangaroo court more power to them. But I’m not going to get upset because a guy didn’t get an inside the park homerun.
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7 hours ago, baltfan said:
Who said that some pitchers don't have the "clutch switch" as you put it? But some pitchers definitely don't. For example, it looks quite possible that Fuji's performance is affected by clutch situations. The default is likely that both pitchers and hitters have more nerves and are more likely to not execute as well as they would. Those pitchers and hitters that happen to be able to control their nerves so that they are the same as with no one on base; therefore, they have an advantage that those that get nervous don't. So a clutch pitcher would be one that isn't affected by the situation who can take advantage of a batter who is affected by it so they do things like expand the zone or overswing.
Again, no one knows exactly why some small subset of players is better in the clutch. This is just one possibility.
You kind of did. " In higher leverage situations they stay cool but the pitcher doesn’t."
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2 hours ago, baltfan said:
They do. It’s just they don’t get the advantage the same in low leverage situations because the pitcher is also controlling their nerves. In higher leverage situations they stay cool but the pitcher doesn’t. This provides an extra advantage.
Huh? So hitters have the "clutch switch" but pitchers don't?
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14 minutes ago, baltfan said:
How about that maybe some people are better at controlling their nerves so they get an advantage they wouldn’t have in a non-pressure situation when the pitcher isn’t as nervous.? And why is it that it can’t just be that some guys just are better.? The Eddie Murray stats show in general he just was. Why, no one can know for sure. Maybe his slow heartbeat. Maybe his pitch selection provided a greater advantage in the clutch or with runners on. In the end it doesn’t really matter.
Why don’t they do this in all situations?
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1 minute ago, baltfan said:
You didn’t take out his RISP numbers from his career average. His career numbers with no one on were 792.
Didn't realize I should do that...
Can one only flip on the "clutch switch" with runners on or in scoring postion?
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5 hours ago, baltfan said:
So by your reasoning, if hitters are bad in the clutch, why don't they just hit like they do in non-clutch situations? Maybe some hitters are better in the clutch because they are better able to focus and slow their heart beat. Maybe those skills are magnified in the clutch because pitchers have more difficulty with those two things in general in clutch situations.
Eddie Murray's OPS with runners on was .888 without runner on it was .792. With the bases loaded his OPS was 1.357. If you look at all of his clutch stats as defined by Baseball Reference, they are almost uniformly above his other stats. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/split.fcgi?id=murraed02&year=Career&t=b#clutc
No, my reasoning is that hitters hit however they hit (good or bad) more or less the same way, no matter the situation.
Look at Eddie's numbers:
Career: 287 BA 359 OBP 476 SLG 836 OPS
RISP: 292 BA 391 OBP 497 SLG 888 OPS
On 3rd, 2 Out: 293 BA 422 OBP 513 SLG 935 OPS
2 outs, RISP: 262 BA 391 OBP 464 SLG 855 OPS
Late/Close: 282 BA 371 OBP 494 SLG 865 OPS
Tie Game: 290 BA 369 OBP 500 SLG 869 OPS
Aside from runner on 3rd with 2 outs, none of those numbers are demonstrably different from his career numbers.
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6 minutes ago, Moose Milligan said:
Baker has been one of the bigger disappointments this season. He has electric stuff at times but I was ready to throw my phone at the TV the other day when he got ahead 0-2 on some chump (IKF?) and then couldn't put him away.
Agreed and what really sucks is he was so good to begin the season.
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12 minutes ago, O's84 said:
One last thing. People defending Elias for not doing more because of the cost. Elias said he took "some very big swings". If those had connected, I wonder if some of those defenders would now be criticizing Elias for giving up too much. Just my two cents.
I read that quote as him saying that they were attempting to get the "bigger" names on the market but the asking price was a non starter.
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1 minute ago, baltfan said:
The clutch hitting research is replete with sabermetricians skewing matters to prove it isn't a predictable skill from year to year, so it must not exist in general. That, however, fails to capture that it can exist for shorter periods over a player's career or even at an individual player level. Moreover, many times researchers seem to move the bar. They expect that a player would be not just better than in non-clutch situations but better than the vast majority of players in clutch situations.
Eddie Murray, e.g., generally throughout the course of his career was statistically better in "clutch" situations than non-clutch situations. Fans noticed this trend and when they saw him come up in a clutch situation you would think he was more likely to come through than in a normal at-bat. Is that clutch? Or is it not clutch unless he was consistently say at the top of the league in clutch situations? Is a hitter clutch if they perform above average in clutch situations for 2/3 of the seasons in their career? I guess it all depends on your definition of clutch, but I think most people think of it as a player being better than their normal selves in clutch situations as well as better than the average hitter in those situations. By that definition, I believe clutch exists. However, to call someone a clutch hitter doesn't mean that every season they have to be clutch. Just like if you call someone a great hitter, they can still have some seasons where they aren't so great.
My point is that, while there are clutch situations, there is no such thing as a clutch hitter. Good hitters are going to be typically good hitters in any situation, just as bad hitters are going to be bad hitters in any situation. If people really had the ability to be clutch (hit better in certain high leverage situations), then why wouldn't they just hit that way all the time?
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I bet this writer would consider Ohtani, McClanahan, or Gallen an Ace and yet their only worth between 0.1 and 0.3 WAR more than Bradish.
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26 minutes ago, FlaO'sFan said:
110 losses in 2021 to this year. I think Elias is doing ok with the math.
Also, you have to love how Fangraphs routinely craps on the Orioles and predicted them to be bad this year, but now all of a sudden the Orioles are losers for not trading a bunch of prospects for a few middling rentals to possibly increase the small odds of going all the way this year.
Even now, they only predict the Orioles to go a game over 500 the rest of the season.
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26 minutes ago, clapdiddy said:
I think if the O's get to the playoffs and the starting pitching falters, you will see the big move for a pitcher in the off-season.
Exactly. I would rather see them package a surplus of prospects for a pitcher/s with more service time during the offseason, rather than giving up too much for 2 months of someone that isn't much better than what's in house.
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24 minutes ago, Hallas said:
I think there was the perception of a lot because the WS were listening on Cease and the Tigers tried to trade EdRod. In terms of what actually changed hands there was a bit less because EdRod invoked his no-trade and Cease/Mariners pitchers didn't get moved.
But no one was advocating trading Norby or Cowser for Jack Flaherty. If we traded those guys it was to acquire better pitchers like Montgomery or Verlander.
Verlander maybe was hard to get a handle on because he may or may not have accepted a trade to Baltimore. But Montgomery was traded for an offer that the O's could have matched or beaten and I would have been much happier.
So they should have traded better prospects for someone that's only been a half a win better than the guy they got?
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23 minutes ago, Billy F-Face3 said:
Just turned on SportsCenter and ESPN was talking about deadline deal winners and losers. ESPN thinks the Orioles are the biggest trade deadline losers because they didn't add the arms they needed. Said Jack Flaherty has command problems and has lost games all by himself the past couple of seasons.
Like Cardinals fans said, Orioles got fleeced.
While Elias is an excellent evaluator of talent, what I'm thinking is that behind the scenes, either Elias is handcuffed by Angelos (who vetoes deals based on player salaries) or Elias has a long way to go before he becomes a highly skilled negotiator. Probably the prior, if we can say that last year's 2022 deadline trades were good.
I'm sure they said it, but I find it funny, since Baseball Tonight was praising the trade yesterday on the deadline show.
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3 hours ago, baltfan said:
The sample sizes are so small one could argue we don't know what the likely outcome is. Maybe his clutch stats are his actual level of talent, though admittedly doubtful. In any event, let's hope that the psychic benefits for him and the fear that pitchers have given his reputation this year in these situations allow the wave to continue!
Or it could be that he's hitting better in clutch situations this year but that being clutch isn't actually a real thing.
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. He had to be talking about at the Trop. Because they're 4-2 there this season and were a combined 3-16 the previous two seasons.
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