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    Game of the year?

    in Orioles Talk

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    46 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

    First of all, George Kirby is so good.

    Secondly, I’m glad the demise of Bautista was greatly exaggerated. I thought his career might be over after the Houston series. Good thing he bounced back.

    Yes.  This.  Kirby will shortly be one of the Top 5 if not Top 3 dominant pitchers in MLB.   Not only does he have the stuff but has the right amount of well channeled competitive fire.  Hope GROD was paying attention.   If the Os get that level of pitching over the next few years this team could be fearsome. 

    The return of Kevin Brown

    in Orioles Talk

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    27 minutes ago, drjohnnyfever1 said:

    Nonsense.  You can certainly do what you think necessary in your own life, but your road would likely lead him to Barstool Sports.  They need people too, I guess; but other owners seeing a positive response from a guy who by all information and indication was reprimanded for something idiotic and didn't get hot-headed about it and just let the dust settle, tells maybe as much or more about what kind of guy he is than if he had spouted off.  Sometimes quiet discretion is much more powerful than letting the dogs out.

    Plus, I don't think the tweet that came from KB was scripted.  It sounds like him.  And the fact that the O's retweeted it makes me think they didn't expect that and retweeted it as acknowledgement, but even that looks shady.  Make your own response, like, "Welcome back."  Or even, "Go O's."  but even that's too much for them.  If they had totally ignored the tweet everyone would be asking, "Why didn't they respond?"  It was a non-response, response.

    This is right Kevin Brown only helped his brand.   Wish JA understood brand building, PR and leadership. 

    Kevin Brown absence explained?

    in Orioles Talk

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    One irony on the NY criticism.  Always loved that Baltimore was the anti-NY and anti-Steinbrenner.  Can't say that anymore.  Angelos' pettiness rivals Steinbrenner.   Really had high hopes that John would would not be Peter - disappointed and concerned about the future given JA's bouts of pettiness. Such a bad look and an Orioles and Baltimore brand withdrawal vs a brand deposit. 

    Kevin Brown absence explained?

    in Orioles Talk

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    In a weird way this could end up being a positive on a few fronts.  1) when the Os were bad this would have been a non-story.  Franchise is a joke. Move on.  No one would be interested.  Ultimately this reinforces that the Baltimore Orioles are highly relevant, everyone in baseball is now paying attention. 2)  With higher standing comes greater standards - Os are expected to be good to great at everything now - media will no longer give them a pass.  3) Angelos now getting on MLB radar - he has been off MLB radar for awhile /a non-factor with no owner group relationships- other than the MASN thing but that was mostly a legal argument and although painful and aggravating, legitimate legally to contest up until resolution.   Angelos and questions about lease and ownership suitability will now begin to bubble up as 4) MLB and leagues does not take capricious owner behavior lightly - JA will now be on notice - embarrassing to MLB. Completely different if KB make a derisive comment,  commited an HR infraction etc.  He did not.  JA can do what he wants but not really and yes KB could probably claim JA has damaged his rep, maybe this is contructive dismissal etc - I mean JA is an idiot for doing this.    5) All of  this may accelerate a change, CEO coming in etc - JA may be asked to take a back seat if this type of behavior continues.  Sometimes it takes awhile but eventually bad leadership gets called out and replaced even if that means a team owner. 

    Why isn't Ortiz in Baltimore instead of Mateo?

    in Orioles Talk

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    40 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

    I have been saying this for a while and the Elias press conference before the deadline was the clincher. The focus is completely on the postseason roster and Mateo’s speed is a huge asset in the postseason, at least potentially.

    That is what this is all about. They don’t feel they need Ortiz to help them get into the playoffs. It’s all about winning in October.

    So, for Ortiz to be here, they have to believe that Ortiz gives them a better chance to win over one of Urias, Frazier or a Westburg.

    Yes this is completely the point.   I would prefer Urias to be that swing guy -  you could put Ortiz at SS, GH at 3rd and JW/AF at 2B, Urias subbing at 3B/SS.  But when they run the analytical model pretty sure Mateo speed probably equates to a win or two more in post season along with Frazier LHB PH late in game, Urias key AB or defensive play.  Ortiz is depth or luxury at this point. 

    Monday, July 31: Orioles finish July in Canada

    in Game Threads

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    Cowser may be a consequence of the pennant race.  Prospects have to perform under pressure against the best.  Even if this weren't a pennant race be tough to keep CC in the majors. He is epically bad right now, performing like you would expect a Single A player called up to the show prematurely.  Stowers would be better at this point.

    Orioles related trade rumors and speculation leading up to the deadline

    in Orioles Talk

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    Not convinced Elias has the GM relationships to get the right deals done - almost like there is some level of hazing occurring.    Other GM's to Elias - "you have great prospects, best in the game ...not going to take your 12th best prospects - need 1-2 of your top guys or no deal."  Elias - "ok no deal."   You don't win the trade deadline when you are  in first place by a couple of games, with a portion of your pitching staff running on fumes  and want to win the WS by saying - "we could not make a trade that met our requirements."    Not saying Elias should get taken but seems like he is not winning any of these negotiations right now. 

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    Should the Orioles retire Mussina’s number?

    in Orioles Talk

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    Also the Yankees have retired 22 numbers almost all associated with iconic players and names who played their entire career and/or made their biggest mark with the Yankees.  Had Mussina come up with and started his career with the Yankees and signed with the Os or other team later he would have gone in with a Yankees cap. 

    Should the Orioles retire Mussina’s number?

    in Orioles Talk

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    No.  If he elected to go into HOF as an Oriole and he could have then I would see it differently.  Also he didn’t go in as a HOF with the Yankees probably because he knew that would have been ridiculous.   83  career WAR definitely for me belongs in HOF was a better pitcher with the Os than the Yanks and should have reminded everyone of that and elected the Os cap which would have led to retiring 35. 

    What do we do about Jorge Mateo?

    in Orioles Talk

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    Just now, Jim'sKid26 said:

    This is, in a nutshell, what happens in professional sports. It is a viciously competitive environment where performance dictates opportunity.......except maybe if you are a middle infielder in the Orioles system.

    This is 100 percent the right perspective.  Time to determine if Ortiz is an upgrade over Mateo and Urias. 

    My Thoughts on Today’s Game

    in Orioles Talk

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    40 minutes ago, bpilktree said:

    The team is fine with pressure.  You don’t win so many close games even your nit able to handle pressure.  However you play a lot of close games your gonna lose some as well.  Mullins, Hicjs, and Henderson will give you good at bats and that will hurt.  I am hoping they have Ortiz up here by this time next week or he is moved in a trade for a bigger piece.  

    The pressure is different when there is more on the line, i.e. division lead and holding on to that, expecting to make the playoffs and winning most games.  Having low external expectations and low % chance of making the playoffs is very different than the current state of things.  It is a very young team with limited experience playing playoff games. 

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