Jammer7
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12 hours ago, hoosiers said:
IMO, the idea of drafting a catcher who projects somewhere between better than league average and all-star for at least six years will be very, very difficult to pass on. Never say never, but as we sit here today, with a full season of amateur baseball to play before the draft, it is also difficult to imagine someone knocking Rutschmann off 1-1.
I tend to agree with Frobby. Let’s see him this season with similar success, or hopefully better. Catchers are very risky due to the injuries and physical demands of the position. It’s a tough call no matter how many people say it’s a no brainer.
Witt could show more refinement in some things, and be more than worthy. The guy I keep coming back to is CJ Abrams. If he shows a bit more consistency driving the baseball, and just a little more polish at SS, he’s hard to pass up for me.
Another factor to consider is which is more valuable: 100-110 games a year with Rutschman or 150 games a year with Witt or Abrams? Assuming they develop and become major leaguers that produce in the top 5-10 of their respective positions. It’s a big assumption, but a valid question. You could say Rutschman could impact a staff in many ways that help them even when he’s got a day off. Or you could say that he would play some 1B or DH. And some may say that all we need is 6 years out of him.
Rutschman is impressive. And if he is the pick, I will be excited. But I don’t think you can just point to some college numbers and say that it’s a no brainer before the spring season gets started. The new regime has certainly not made up their minds yet. Whatever their pick is, they will have thoroughly investigated every aspect of it and made an educated decision a short time before the draft.
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Martin has missed time with several knee injuries since being drafted. We may be getting him at a time where he begins figuring things out. Maybe Jeff Manto, if he’s still in the organization, can help him understand something and it clicks. But he is an instant improvement over who we already had. I like it.
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So, based on his latest surge, are you saying he deserves to be the starting 3B in Bowie next season? Encarnacion is likely to be the starter in Frederick.
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Since he arrived in Baltimore, his swing has shortened some and he has impressed with his bat speed. I liked the bat immediately the first night when he hit a 2B down the left field line at 111 mph. What really impresses me is his hard work with Bobby Dickerson and how it shows in his play. At 24 years old, he’s interesting.
In an interview with Roch Kubatko yesterday, he seemed humbled by his trials in the major leagues. He even called Bobby Dickerson, “Mr. Dickerson.” Respect. I love it.
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9 hours ago, weams said:
It's really rare for a guy to become one of the top 800 baseball players in the world. A lot of promising kids are injured and never get the shot to try. I feel bad for him. I wish he had taken the 47% offer. Likely the best he will ever see.
Perhaps so. We know many of the same people, so I will make some inquiries to try to find out what happened. I do not know him well, though we are fairly close to some of his teammates. I wonder if it is a shoulder and not the elbow. Not sure what the Braves think about rehabbing a guy and taking a chance on him. The Nats have that track record of taking medical risks, which is what I alluded to in he previous post.
Its a little surprising, though, because the kid was in a program year round that is really excellent for pitchers to grow without being overused. They had several stud pitchers there in Brevard County the last several years. Stewart’s teammate, their #2 starter, is a Florida signee, RHP Nick Pogue. Remember that name. He will be a top pick in three years. A little raw now, but he has been handled extremely well through the years.
As a side rant, related somewhat, I suspect that the world of amateur scouting is what is actually to blame for these kids’ demise. All of the damn showcases are year round now. Kids burn out, plain and simple. The pitchers get little rest. Being fresh out of that grind, I can tell you I will do things differently with my younger son. They killed my son’s love of the game. And as far as I know, Carter never had arm or shoulder issues. They have to do something about this crap. It is killing the game. At least take the fall off.
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8 hours ago, bpilktree67 said:
Looks like 4 of the top 36 did not sign. The highest being Carter Stewart who many wanted here. Could you imagine if he dropped to us and we wouldn’t have signed him.
I don’t even want to think about that. I am disappointed for the kid. After all you do to get to that point, and this happens. SMH. Denaburg got a nice bonus from the Nats despite some medical issues. They are both Brevard County kids and know each other well. I hope he recovers from whatever issues he is having and has a strong run at Mississippi State.
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46 minutes ago, Luke-OH said:
Did he actually sign though? He hasn't been announced by a team source and 1K for a HS player doesn't make a lot of sense.
I thought the same thing when I saw that on the MLB draft tracker. I watched some video on him and honestly, it's mediocre. I've seen much much better prospects go undrafted.
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55 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:
You know what can cause shoulder instability? A torn labrum.
Let's hope it's not because that the death nail for a pitching prospect.
Yeah, had the same thought. But I am going to stay positive with Harvey. I hope he did not do more harm by pitching with the injury. I am trying not to add to the doom and gloom around here. Pitchers get injured, but this is one is freakish.
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18 hours ago, scarey1999 said:
I only watched peices of the game but he seemed to move well out there. He did misplay a ball (hard grounder/single to the left of the 2B toward the gap...he over ran it).
I didn’t hear the announcers make mention of anything related to why he wasn’t catching. You could definitely see his arm strength on display. Even on routine throws back into the infield, the ball had some zing on it.
I noticed that zing on every throw. Someone please tell him to save his ammo. There are only so many in the canon and the arm wears out.
Any relation to Brian Roberts? His athleticism reminds me of BJ Surhoff. I like this pick a lot, and I want to see him catch more. UNC’s other catcher is pretty solid player as well.
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Shoulder instability. Hmmm...
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1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:
But wouldn't you want to at least talk to the kid about contract demands before picking him?
I would imagine they talked with his agent to see his number. And I am sure they did their due diligence on him in their scout meeting with him and doing his homework. I got from his comments that they just did not tell him they were looking to take him there, whereas some other teams may have said they would take him at pick X, etc...
In any event, I am sure they know what they needed to know to take him there. This isn’t the Syd Thrift years brother Corn. The ML team is in disarray, but the amateur scouting folks and player development peeps seem to be clicking well. If only we had an international interest....
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5 hours ago, Luke-OH said:
I think they wanted someone they were sure would stick at SS and was a fairly fast mover. I don’t like drafting for need, but there was a comment before and after the pick about filling an organizational need.
I think this is what happened here. The organization had a need and they filled it with a guy who can move quickly defensively. I wanted Xavier Edwards there, but he went next to Cleveland. I like Grenier, but I hope he takes a good bit under slot to help us elsewhere.
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I like this one too. I liked Xavier Edwards more, and he went next. Edwards is more of a project, but he can fly and pick it.
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To me, it's clear that Gary Rajsich has had a much better run than Joe Jordan at Scouting Director. It takes a year or two to get your scouts in place. Since then, he has drafted a bunch of high upside high school talent that needs to be developed. It's fair to say both have had their share of success and misses.
Jordan's misses are much much more glaring. Matusz is not Jordan's fault, not a scouting "miss." That mess happened somewhere in the organization during his first few years. And yes, Manny Machado and Matt Wieters were "no brainers," like RZNJ explained above. So was Dylan Bundy. But when you take a Matt Hobgood and a Billy Rowell with high picks, you deserve to be criticized. It comes with the job. Jason Esposito in round 2 2011 was an awful pick as well. But Zachary Davies in round 26, great value there in 2011, JJ's last draft. And Bridwell in round 9 in 2010 worked out decently, just not for us. Mychal Givens (round 2 2009) worked out well, just not as a MIF. And JJ did draft Arrieta in round 5 2007, after Jake fell due to signability. Zachary Britton in round 3 2006 makes up for the rest of that terrible draft.
You could say that Kevin Gausman in 2012, Rajsich' first draft, was a similar pick to Matusz. In that, he wasn't a "no brainer," but he was a consensus top pick. Mancini (round 8 2013) was a great value. You can say he only became a great hitter after...whatever. He was drafted by Gary Rajsich. Steven Brault (round 11 2013) and Josh Hader (round 19 2012) were also drafted by GR, and they are in the ML elsewhere.
If Hunter Harvey comes back strong, Sisco's defense keeps improving and his power comes through, Gassaway (round 16 2013) develops power, Branden Kline comes all the way back, Brian Gonzalez makes it back to his 2016 form, Tanner Scott keeps improving his secondary pitches, David Hess keeps momentum from last few starts...the list goes on...but if half of that works out, especially Harvey, then GR has drafted players and they were developed. I was not a fan of the DJ Stewart pick, and I was quite critical. But it looks like he may just be panning out somewhat. Not sure he'll be an everyday LF, but he may just hit afterall. Not sure his production and career will be befitting the 25th overall pick, but meh, maybe not a bust. Sedlock is injured, and there is no way he was as bad as the numbers this year. Akin is turning things around. Curran may be a hitter. Mountcastle's results speak for themselves. Garrett Cleavinger may be a bulllen piece before too long. Hanifee and Myers show promise. Hays is a major success story for GR and the development staff as well. Dietz is showing signs of coming around as well. Mullins, I am very excited about. A possible lead off guy...we really need some guys who are more OBP contact oriented with speed.
There are more players, by far, in the system today who may someday play in the ML than ever before. The problem is, not much of the impact variety. Not much at premium positions, although Hays may be a CF and Sisco has a shot to have impact at C. We are barren of MIF talent, and everyone knows it. Mountcastle may just be an impact bat, but where does he play? Mullins is exciting, but where does he play? If Adam Hall works out to be as advertised, it really helps. We are also poor at developing starting pitching. We turn out a ton of relievers, but starters other than Gausman and Bundy...not so much. Although Hader, Brault and Ed Rod would have been nice, they developed and improved with other organizations. Arrieta, Bridwell, uh never mind.
The biggest problem is, and has always been in the Angelos years, the organizational culture. I like that DD has given Rajsich the freedom to take some guys that need time to develop. We'll see if his picks work out. Tough to get impact everyday players when you often spend your first picks on pitchers due to organizational need. Then you draft in the latter part of the first round because your team is in the playoffs regularly, albeit a mediocre playoff team.
If DD would stop trading away compensation B picks, there may be a few more talented kids in the system. If the team would allow international signings of FA, our talent would be bolstered perhaps. The farm system is what it is. But look at what it has produced for trades and for players at our ML club. Look at the talent level now compared to 2011. It's a startling difference for the better. I am not saying GR is a genius, but he is certainly an above average Scouting Director. JJ was below average.
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I'm not a basketball guy but when I hear 4th leading scorer on his team and leading rrebounder, I think of a 6'5" player who's best talent is rebounding, in the NBA. That doesn't sound like a combination that flies.
I agree, unless you are the Round Mound of Rebound that is. Sir Charles was more like 6-04.
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The bats were much hotter then. The pitching was inferior to today as well.