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3 minutes ago, allsighs said:
Am I disappointed? Sure. But I have to say it feels good to be eliminated with 5 games left in the season instead of 5 months...
Agreed, and I have to admit I feel happy for The Mariners, who I think haven't been to the postseason since 2001.
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Here's a crazy trade proposal
How about Jackson Holliday, DL Hall, Colton Cowser and Coby Mayo to Miami for Sandy Alcantara. And if the Marlins want more then we have plenty of other quality prospects to send their way. Or is that maybe even a bit too much because it's too much of a risk for one starter? Should we ask for another player or two from the Marlins as well and include more in the trade their way?
Think there is any chance the Marlins would trade him? If any team has a large quantity of great prospects to trade for a young TOR guy it's the O's.
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On 9/26/2022 at 2:23 PM, SteveA said:
I think we make at least one pickup of a proven quality MLB starter by free agency or trade, and we go into next year with a rotaiton of Rodriguez, Bradish, Wells, Kremer, and proven-quality-MLB-starter. Voth would be #6 which means unless someone is hurt he is in the pen, but what are the odds that your top 5 stay 100% healthy? I think he gets his chance to pitch for the 2023 contending Orioles.
Meanwhile, we have DL Hall in Norfolk trying to figure things out, Means recuperating for a 2nd half return, and Povich movinng his way up through the ranks.
The rotation you cite there makes me think the O's need to go after two starters in the offseason. That doesn't mean they have to get them on the free agent market. They get one or more via a trade. And it doesn't mean one or both starters has to be a Verlander or deGrom (we can dream). But it just doesn't seem reasonable to expect that Rodriguez, Bradish, Well and Kremer will all be ready Opening Day. And if they find they have too many quality pitchers by the summer -- then that's a nice problem to have: shore up the bullpen or do a trade or two.
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2 hours ago, Camden_yardbird said:
The most interesting part of the deal is this: If Castillo undergoes a UCL reconstructive surgery (Tommy John) during the course of the contract then the Mariners get a $5 million dollar option on 2028.
Yeah, I wonder if more contracts in the future will have a similar option.
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Can't stand watching him at the plate. He can't take strike 3 with the bases loaded and nobody out the way he just did -- and then complain about the call. It was clearly a strike. He looked like a fool there, and a decent hitter would have protected the plate. Maybe he brings back memories of Mark Belanger, but it's silly to think he's the starter for years to come with so many great hitting shortstops emerging these days.
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Obviously right now this team needs more hitting than pitching, but that could change fast.
This team needs one or two more starters -- especially if Lyles leaves; especially if Means, Grayson and Wells need more recovery time; especially Hall is nowhere near being ready. Does have to be TOR guys? Not necessarily. But even if Lyles stays -- because Lyles is an effective innings eater and not a difference maker -- I can't see how they can't add at least one good starter.
If we're happy with the O's being a really good 4th place team then we don't need to pursue more pitching. The teams that go deep into the playoffs have pitching depth. They may not have a Verlander or Scherzer, but they don't wonder who is starting tomorrow -- and, barring injuries, they don't wonder if they have enough decent arms to take them further into October.
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13 minutes ago, RZNJ said:
As far as I'm concerned, Wells, Kremer, and Bradish should have a leg up, meaning they would have to suck next spring to lose jobs. I feel like Voth/Grayrod combo is the perfect way to break GrayRod in. That leaves one spot for someone special if they can get him.
That one spot should eventually go back to John Means -- assuming he has a full recovery. Wells has been quite bad the past two months. Hopefully he's just trying to get his rhythm back, but at the moment he looks like he could be a 6th man, assuming the O's add pitching this offseason and eventually add Means and Grayson.
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7 minutes ago, MurphDogg said:
11 starts since being called back up, 2.67 ERA.
Anyone ready to pencil him into the Opening Day rotation, or is he one of many fighting for a spot going into Spring Training?
He had a 3.14 ERA in August in 5 starts, then a 2.08 ERA this month after another 5 starts. After reading about him a bit it looks like his weakest pitch is his fastball. So, he's been thriving on all his other pitches -- especially a cutter and slider -- and an improved changeup.
You got to wonder if Means and Rodriguez won't be ready for OD next season, perhaps making Bradish pretty close to guaranteed a spot in the rotation, at least to begin the year. He's only 25 and not sure what more he could do to convince than pitch extremely well the past couple of months.
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It's over if you can't score runs, which has been this team's main struggle for awhile. I think the O's have scored the fewest runs of any MLB team with a winning record, and at the moment they have a negative runs scored / runs against differential that's been heading in the wrong direction since around the time the benches cleared with Toronto.
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Makes me smile O's fans are upset the O's did not sweep the best team in the AL in their park. Even the Dodgers would have trouble doing that. That said, this O's team is not a strong offensive team this year for well discussed reasons. They seem to be ding pretty much everything else well right now, though.
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23 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:
Nobody's really used a sweeper in years. Maybe at the youth level, but not pros. Makes it really hard to run an offside trap.
Wait... what?
Yeah, "sweeper" is a position on the soccer field too -- probably not used anymore -- so I also thought maybe I was about to read about the wrong sport in the wrong decade.
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6 hours ago, interloper said:
Free agent catchers according to MLBTR:
Tucker Barnhart (32)
Curt Casali (34)
Jason Castro (36)
Robinson Chirinos (38)
Willson Contreras (31)
Austin Hedges (30)
Andrew Knapp (31)
Sandy Leon (34)
Martin Maldonado (36) – $5MM vesting option
Omar Narvaez (31)
Roberto Perez (34)
Kevin Plawecki (32)
Austin Romine (34)
Gary Sanchez (30)
Kurt Suzuki (39)
Christian Vazquez (32)
Stephen Vogt (38)
Mike Zunino (32)One of the better guys on this list probably makes the most sense for next season at least. Would also love to get Contreras and have him split time between C, 1B and DH -- probably a pipe dream but a nice one.
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The level of greed in MLB and sports in general has gotten out of hand. A sports book at a stadium is another reason not to take kids to a sporting event.
Gambling should be nowhere near the playing field, and the only way I would support MLB promoted legalized gambling at all is if it lowered ticket prices, prompted baseball to be on regular local TV again, and/or was largely spent on youth sports leagues. Of course, none of these things will happen.
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3 hours ago, RZNJ said:
I agree that Vavra should have started somewhere. We got beat by a pitcher who was on his game. The biggest problem with this offense right now is Hayes and Mountcastle are giving us nothing and Mountcastle got hit in the hand last night.
The biggest problem with the offense right now is we have guys in the lineup that shouldn't even be on the team.
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6 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:
Wait, are we back as a winning team that we start making threads called "pathetic" over getting beat 2 of 3 from a team that has typically beaten us like a drum over the last oh I don't know, last eight years?
We have never played well in Tampa.
But honestly, do you guys really think Elias really thinks this team is a contender? Today's lineup included a .706 OPS celan up hitter in Urias, Odor (.644 OPS) batting 5th, the end of the lineup with Nevin (.571) playing 1B and Phillips and his .488 OPS playing RF.
In the words of Cal Naughton Jr., "It's embarrassing."
This is why I'm enjoying the ride, but I'm not going to start getting too excited because it's clear Elias still is not putting a contending team lineup on the field every game.
I don't understand your last sentence. The O's had the last playoff spot two days ago. Are you saying they should just give up and feel it's Ok to fall behind the Red Sox again merely because Elias feels the team is not yet ready to compete? It's asinine. They should be putting the best lineup out there every day the rest of the season to try for that playoff spot. Why not McKenna and Vavra? Nevin and Phillips barely belong on the bench much less a starting lineup. Would Earl Weaver, Johnny Oates or Buck Showalter allow that lineup out there? The heavyweight teams are coming up, and the O's could easily fall back to last place with that slop of a lineup we saw today. It's like the regime is so certain they'll be an excellent team next year they're not even going to try hard this year. I can't remember the last time I've been this angry as an O's fan.
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1 hour ago, webbrick2010 said:
Not only that I doubt that Trey wants to return to Camden Yards
You mean because of the wall being moved? Could be. But I think it really comes down to money and contract years.
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1 hour ago, NCRaven said:
I understand you admiration for Mancini, but i couldn't disagree more. Glad Trey was an Oriole. Having said that, I see no future for him on this team. We have plenty of candidates for 1B, COF, and DH. Overpaying an aging, right-handed, first baseman, that at his best was a little better than league average seems like a waste of resources and a roster spot to me. I still believe in Mountcastle depsite his bad last month. But, even if you don't, I think we can find better and cheaper options at 1B than committing a multi-year deal to Mancini.
I hope you're right, but it's not like all these strong new prospects be ready the beginning of next season. It may be better to bring back Mancini because of his consistency and try to trade one or more of the likes of Hays, Santander or Mountcastle because of their still strong trade value but also because of their obvious flaws. And even if the O's don't trade much this offseason Mancini still has proven to be more reliable than Hays, who can't stay healthy. If Mancini gets a 6 year deal elsewhere then I guess don't match it -- but I'm thinking anything else less should be considered at a minimum (perhaps 4 plus an option year). It's not like the O's don't have payroll room, and it's not like Mancini will command a huge investment. And it's not like the O's are currently an offensive powerhouse.
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7 hours ago, DrungoHazewood said:
Mancini had a 114 OPS+ with the Orioles. Even if his replacements have a 90 that probably won't cost the team 5 runs between now and the end of the season.
Where did you get the math on that?
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5 hours ago, spiritof66 said:
The problem with the team's offense isn't the loss of Mancini -- or, at least, that's low on the list. The main problems are Mountcastle's prolonged and deep swoon, Urias's less extreme slump. Hays' injury/unavailability/lack of production, Odor's regular presence in the lineup, giving ABs to Phillips, and the difficulty in pinch hitting for Chirinos when Adley is DHing. That's a lineup with four to five pretty big holes in it right now, just as the level of the competition ramps up. They've been scoring some runs, but against pretty bad pitching staffs (and defenses).
Against better pitching and teams competing for wildcard spots, there's a real need for some offensive reinforcements as well as improvement from the current lineup, especially Mountcastle. I think Elias acknowledged as much when he said he tried to bring in some ML talent at the deadline but didn't find an acceptable deal. (He might have been talking about starting pitching only, but the Phillips deal suggests otherwise.) It's now looking like meaningful help from the system won't happen for a while. I guess Stowers remains a possible exception, especially if Hays can't go full-out or has a setback.
It will be quite a challenge for the current team to stay in the race without help. My guess is that happens only if the starting pitching performs well, both in innings pitched and in runs allowed, against some pretty good offenses. I'm looking forward to it, and trying to keep my expectations low.
Right, which is why losing Mancini hurts. He's been the most consistent hitter on the team for years when the rest of the team has been so inconsistent. Not saying they should not have traded him considering the return and it's his contract year, but I am saying I like to see the FO bring him back next year and beyond. People act like all these prospects are a sure thing to replace Mancini's bat. I'm not so sure when we're seeing so much injury and inconsistent hitting this season. For once the strong point of this team is its pitching. Losing Mancini hurts more than people want to admit -- and not just because he was a fan favorite.
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2 hours ago, e16bball said:
102 games before trading Mancini: 424 runs (4.16 runs per game)
6 games after trading Mancini**: 29 runs (4.83 runs per game)
** note: assumes no more runs scored in today’s game
Yes, I should have said WILL BE struggling to score runs with Mancini gone and a newbie (albeit impressive) up from the minors to replace him. I assume Brett Philips and Yusniel Diaz will be short-lived experiments, but I just can't see the O's playing at this high a level with that bottom third of the lineup once they get back to the heavyweight teams.
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1 hour ago, spleen1015 said:
Vavra is getting Mancini's AB.
Agreed. This team is definitely not better minus Mancini, plus Brett Philips. They are struggling to score runs with Mancini gone. They need to axe Odor and Philips as soon as they can. Mountcastle and Mullins are pretty good but not the same mashers they were last year. I wouldn't be surprised if the O's try to re-sign Mancini (which maybe they should anyway) or find another first baseman if Mountcastle stays like this the rest of the season. Hopefully lots of good bats coming up from the minors soon but don't think any of them play at first.
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On 8/5/2021 at 9:48 AM, vab said:
A team that's been one of the worst in baseball for five seasons who plays their home games in a bandbox in the toughest division probably in sports. I think Matt Harvey is about the limit to what will be available to this club in pitching free agents.
No, as the O's get better and spend more money they'll have much better options. The question is whether they will pursue them aggressively as their competitors -- and be smarter about who they sign and for how long.
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On 8/5/2021 at 9:42 AM, eddie83 said:
Look at previous regimes here.
Pearce, R Lopez, Guthrie, Gibbons. I know I’m leaving some other names out. It’s time.
Miguel Gonzalez, Koji Uehara and Wei-Yin Chen come to mind, but like others are saying the Orioles have such a small payroll they should probably go bigger pretty soon on better known FA pitching.
As Queen Elizabeth passes, it's worth noting that the only baseball game she ever attended
in Orioles History
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Would be nice to imagine she tried to catch an O's game every now and then from Windsor Palace, but I'm guessing she didn't take to baseball. More into horses -- maybe the occasional cricket match.