emmett16
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3 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:
Bemboom leading off the 9th inning of a winnable game when we have Rutschman. Adley 1 of 1 with a BB so far today...
I was thinking the same thing.
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Lyles had his A game. I’m ok letting him go pith there. Got an out and gave up a bloop. Still looked good against last batter. Let’s go Lopie!
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That bloop was extremely cathartic.
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Who is the guy in the dug out with the + + mustache?
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1 minute ago, Tony-OH said:
Yeah, besides his PFP gaff that ultimately cost him a run, he's had a nice outing. He's only at 74 pitches so I imagine he's coming out for the 7th.
Makes the PFP and double play blunder even more frustrating, he’s be under 70 pitches easy and in line for the win. Going 7 or, call me crazy 8, on a double header day would have been massive. Maybe he still can..
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I know it’s a hot topic and every time a ball doesn’t go out there will be woulda, coulda, shoulda. I enjoy the bigger field but completely get people who don’t like it. If what just happened to Mountcastle happens dozens of times this year, I imagine I will begin to get frustrated. I’m interested to see how much it really comes into play through course of the season.
If it’s too extreme, it wouldn’t be too difficult, or expensive, to put in a shorter fence about 10’ parallel to the Mountain and make a second field crew area or “on-field” seats. Would be hard &costly to push back further, wonder if they pushed it to the extreme leaving them an opportunity to make an easy adjustment if they needed to.
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That is brutal, frustrating, hilarious, sad, unfortunate, and amazing all at the same time.
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I think it doinked perfectly in the corner of the pad.
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Oh no! Corner ball
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Mountcastle swings at pitches that aren’t even close to the strike zone. His hit earlier in game was on a ball a foot outside.
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I don’t understand how Lyles doesn’t get an error there. If he doesn’t make a mistake the guy is out. How is that different from flat out dropping the ball? That inning was so ridiculous. Very lackadaisical all around.
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Mountcastle can’t let that happen in that situation (or ever). What a terrible throw.
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Just stole his 3rd base of game. Another massive jump. Heck of a game going on between Bowie and Harrisburg. 1-0 pitchers duel nail biter. Stallings throwing a no no.
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This kid is impressive. Looks incredibly comfortable at the plate against a tough lefty today. With his hit today he has reached base in all 24 games this year for the Baysox. And then steals his 8th bag of year standing up. I’ve been equally impressed with his foot speed.
In next AB lines a single up middle and then steals second base of the game(9th on season). 6th multi hit game on the season. I don’t remember hearing much about his run game. He’s getting massive jumps.
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Looks like Hernaiz has his man strength. Has a violence to his swing like Arrozarena. I really like how he drives through the ball. Hope he can stick on the dirt.
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It is pretty absurd that they have not challenged him in AAA. As pointed out above, he is going to have his work cut out for him learning on the fly at the major league level. I imagine as he goes through the learning curve & as MLB pitchers see him for first time, there will be a lot of 3 & 4 inning outings.
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1 hour ago, oldfan said:
Having never seen him pitch, can he get big league hitters out in the strike zone?
Yes. He has a four pix mix and when he’s on (has all pitches going) the batters are defenseless. When he’s not on he’s very tough because the stuff is that good. On top of that he’s an elite competitor. He is going to be fun to watch for a long time.
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32 minutes ago, justD said:
I’m off the Stowers bandwagon. Don’t know if he’s a guess hitter and guesses wrong, doesn’t see pitches well enough to lay off them, or what. But he strikes out way too often, at really inopportune times, to be helpful at the big league level, at least at this point.
Really disappointing.
I feel that vibe. Gonna give him a bit more time after last years showing but is quite disappointing.
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22 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
Keep in mind MacPhail/Duquette produced Schoop and Eduardo Rodriguez (debuted at 22) as ML regulars.
To date this regime hasn’t produced any intl players of note at the major league level. If Bautista turns out to be a keeper, I suppose he goes to Duquette’s tally as well. I bet there may be 1 or 2 more if we looked closely. This is Elias’ third year with one being covid. I expect after 5 non-covid years he and Perez will(and should) have more than the 3 or 4 the previous group brought in. If not it’s a failure. We were told they were making it a focus and have more funds/backing than previous regimes. If we keep getting Cesar Prieto + level talent on a regular basis, I think they will easily beat the previous regime.
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12 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
A couple things that have already been mentioned.
- The average age is probably skewed by college players not entering professional baseball until they are already in their 20's.
- AVERAGE. You can't honestly believe that everyone that beats the average age is an "exceptional talent". Even if you would expect them to take seven years, the law of averages would have at least some of them arriving faster. If you have six guys that pan out to the degree they make the majors all six aren't going to be ready in year seven even if that ends up being the average.
Schoop was in the majors to stay at 22. While he is certainly an exceptionally talented baseball player, as a ML player he's been pretty average.
The O's system that developed him wasn't particularly well regarded and he wasn't a big name signing.
Should we expect less of Elias and his team?
1- I think I remember Frobby posting some heavy researched material on avg. mlb debut ages and that it has been darn near the same age for almost a century. Sure, college players are older as well as players that come from other professional leagues(Cuba & Japan).
2- By average player I mean a player that advances one level each year. I think if you beat that trajectory you are an exceptional talent. It’s incredibly hard to make It to MLB and harder to stay there. If you make it up before avg. of 24.2 years then in my opinion you are an incredible talent. Many incredible talents turn out to be average or below average major league players.
I’m not an Elias apologist and think that everything he does is fantastic. I agree with a lot of people there are/were definitely avenues that could have been taken to expedite the turnaround. I don’t know what more they could do on the international front, though. I would imagine after ~5 years (MacPhails/Duquette tenure) we should see one Schoop Type player come out of nowhere. However, I strongly expect that after 7 years we should have impact international players at every level of the org because of the systems that were put in place. If the system doesn’t produce anything, then yea - Elias is a gigantic failure.
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28 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
I'm not saying we should be seeing someone now. Seven years was the number tossed out originally, not five to seven. I think it is fair to expect returns at the ML level earlier than seven years.
For some reason a lot of the fan base has bought into this extremely slow timetable when it doesn't take other teams near this long to start showing results.
This isn't just about the signees, how many intentional players did Elias trade for his first year here? That's a lot of darts to be throwing at the wall.
All of the players he acquired were 17 years old. They are 20,21 now and likely 3 years away. MLB avg. debut is 24.2 years (throughout the 2000’s). I’d say it’s unrealistic to expect 17 year old Dominican players to be in the league faster than 7 years. 7 years puts them at MLB average assuming they were signed at 17. Players that beat that average are exceptional talents. I don’t think anyone thought we brought in any exceptional talent. I believe the consensus was that there were some “interesting” players but most were to simply build out a roster. The guys he signed in first year and guys he traded for first year were of the average mold and I’d expect them to take 7 years. The guys that he brings in this year should have some higher-end talent and I would hope it will take those players 5-6 years to appear in MLB with fingers crossed we get an outlier that can make it in 4.
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5 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
But as an O's fan we have plenty of experience with low expectations.
Which is something I think we overdo.
I mean I was 3 when they last won the WS so w/o low expectations I’d lose my mind.
You got me thinking on how long it typically takes intl players. It’s gonna be very different for someone coming out of DR vs. Japan, obviously. Quick search couldn’t find any articles covering the topic. But I looked up a few Dominican players out of curiosity.
Juan Soto 3 years from signing to mlb debut
Wander Franco 4 years
Julio Rodriguez 5 years
Anthony Santander 6 years (rule 5 expedited)
I imagine 3 & 4 years to MLB are outliers and most guys make it up in 5-7 years depending on skill level.
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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:
I wonder what the average age is for International debuts compared to say players signed out of college?
Anyway, if the average debut is 23/24 then we should be seeing some earlier. There is also the horde of 17 year olds he traded for when he took over.
I imagine the average age for international guys is lower.
I also think it’s fair to say the guys we got initially were not very highly touted and he was doing a lot of that to simply fill out rosters. Those 17 years olds are now 20 and sneaking into the lower part of the system. And out of that group we are starting to see a couple emerge as potential future prospects.
Now that we are “established” in the intl market it will be interesting to see how quickly the top end int prospects move through the system. Being an Os fan I have no prior experience with that.
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Can’t win close games playing D like this.