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7 hours ago, Big Mac said:
If you are going to bring up Mountcastle I don't see how Puig fits really.
Mountcastle at 1B and Davis gone?
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1 minute ago, Tony-OH said:
Certainly way too early to start saying bust or really being concerned, but his start has not been what was hope. Hopefully next year this time we will have no concerns.
Oh definitely too soon. I'm not worried yet.
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Just now, Can_of_corn said:
Even if he doesn't hit his glove should be good enough to keep him out of the bust category.
Yeah. But some consider Wieters a bust. And as you said...he put up a solid career.
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5 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:
None from me. He was drafted to be an impact hitting catcher, if he's not dominating A-ball pitchers at 22-years old I'm going to have concerns that his bat may not play the way the Orioles thought.
That's fair enough. Hopefully he hits. I was torn on who I wanted the Orioles to pick. Rutschman or Vaughn. A bust #1 overall pick would be devastating to the rebuild.
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6 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:
Vaughn significantly out hit him in his pro debut as well. I'll start to get worried if we're a few months into the season and he's still not hitting like we expected, but the one thing that has been consistent with Rutschman since he's been a pro is a lack of hitting minus a 10-game stretch in Aberdeen.
People can talk about all the great BP and his good looking at bats all they want, at the end of the day, he's a college 1-1 pick and the expectations are for him to produce at an impact level.Vaughn was considered by many to be the most ready impact bat, but Elias is on record as saying he thought Rutschman had the better bat. Obviously it's very, very early and I'm not saying he won't still turn into that guy, but he's failing his early tests and looks.
I'm honestly a little shocked by his lack of offensive success so far. We kinda looked over it last year because of the mono, but he's been bad this spring against some minor league competition and he was bad when he got to Delmarva after that 10-game hot streak. when it seemed like he was finally recovered from his mono.
It's spring training, and it's doesn't matter overall, but it would be nice to see him get some hits giving us a glimpse of what people should be getting excited about.
Am I worried, nope. Have I been disappointed so far, yeah, because I expected a guy who was going to be close to being ready and we have a guy who hasn't really hit anywhere in the pros outside of that 10-game Aberdeen stretch.
I really hope this is just some kind of rust or something we don't know about it and when he starts the year this year he starts hitting and doesn't look back. But if we're a few months into his season and he hasn't hit yet, I'm going to be officially worried.I know he didn't catch any, but this year he will be learning new pitchers and getting used to catching in the Pros. How much leniency does he get with the bat in that regard? Should he get any adjustment time for that? Does that really have that huge of an affect on his offense?
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2 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
You mean four time All-star, 11 year ML player Matt Wieters?
What's your point? It wasnt a knock on Wieters. But he was pegged an All-Time type hitter, and he tore up the minors. What you do good or bad in the minors doesn't automatically make you a HOF or a bust was my point. And I dont consider Wieters a bust.
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Considering I am now being charged almost $9 a month for MASN, I'd expect better coverage (Even in ST). Guess not.
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1 hour ago, Frobby said:
Not too worried, but I’d be happier if he were hitting like Andrew Vaughn (.364/.553/.727 through yesterday in 16 PA).
In all fairness, Vaughn was considered the best bat in the draft. It's really his only skillset.
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1 hour ago, jrobb21613 said:
I’m a little concerned not just because of this spring but the combination of last year in the minors and this spring. He hasn’t shown anything at the plate. I did see some video of some good looking bp sessions but that’s the only positive I can think of.
You know who tore up the minors? Matt Wieters. It's way too early to be concerned about him.
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18 hours ago, PaulFolk said:
Fair enough. All I ask is that you give her a fair shake instead of assuming you won't like her announcing because she's a woman.
I listened to some of her clips...she sounds awful...as an announcer...not as a woman.
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1 hour ago, 7Mo said:
Hey, Merry Christmas dude. You've made your point a few times. Let's move on.
Is it snowing where you are? Do you hear sleigh bells?
Tis the season of 4 new Rule 5 names. How could anyone not be thrilled with that? @Moose Milligan
This happens all of the time. We usually kiss and make up.
Tis the season to be marry... you know any girls named mary?
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1 hour ago, Moose Milligan said:
Oh, CoC and Dark Helmet going at it? This is what happens when an immovable object meets an unstoppable force.
I kid, I kid.
We just picked 2/5 of our rotation today, how can anyone not be excited?
Bah Humbug
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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:
I did have information, I knew that the Angels had traded him to the Giants. That was the totality of my participation in the thread to that point. You asked about stuff I hadn't been talking about.
And since you had no information...you continued the conversation by being condescending and accusing me of trying to insult you. Which I took issue with. Even after I said I wasn't trying to insult you, you basically called me a liar.
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1 minute ago, Dark Helmet said:
So you were telling someone else they are wrong...yet have no information to back that up. Sounds about right. I figured you must have had knowledge of how Elias viewed Wilson as a prospect.
And CoC, that was just snark. Wouldn't want you to feel insulted.
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1 hour ago, Can_of_corn said:
Right, you were wondering if I had personal information from the GM.
Totally reasonable request.
So you were telling someone else they are wrong...yet have no information to back that up. Sounds about right. I figured you must have had knowledge of how Elias viewed Wilson as a prospect.
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Just now, Can_of_corn said:
I'm still trying to see where you admitted you were wrong. You admitted to not being informed and then you, frankly I'm not sure what that second post was about. Asking me if I "personally" know what Elias thinks. Just seems like you were lashing out at that point.
I admitted I didn't know about the trade...then I asked if you knew if Elias considered Wilson a worthwhile prospect to take on salary for. Since you're so much more informed than I.
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16 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:
Shark isn't the same as insulting. I read your comment as a shot at me. Still do actually.
Your right...snark is something you can throw at someone...then play the victim. Think what you want...I won't lose any sleep either way.
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8 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
Are you trying to insult me after you messed up?
Classy!
And please don't say your original response wasn't intended to be snarky. You could have just simply pointed out the trade.
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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:
Are you trying to insult me after you messed up?
Classy!
No I'm not. I haven't had time to keep up with baseball. If I wanted to insult you I'd say something like " You don't matter enough to me to worry about what you have to say".
And unlike you would do, I admitted I was wrong. So go bark up another tree.
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4 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
So the Angels trading Cozart and 2019 first round pick Will Willson to the Giants isn't enough evidence for you?
And it proves nothing anyhow. It still doesn't prove the Orioles wouldn't take on money for the right prospect. Do you personally know how Elias views Wilson as a prospect?
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1 minute ago, Can_of_corn said:
So the Angels trading Cozart and 2019 first round pick Will Willson to the Giants isn't enough evidence for you?
I actually didn't know that trade went down. I have a life.
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This is pure speculation by Connolly. I seriously doubt the Angel's would have dealt a highly touted prospect just to get rid of Cozart. Then Connolly uses his speculation, to try and make a case for something that isn't there. I see no evidence the Angel's would give up a top draft pick to get rid of Cozart. I also see no evidence the Orioles wouldn't take on money to get a prospect, if that prospect was indeed available.
Seems Connolly has taken a playbook from Ken Rosenthal. If nothing's there...make something up.
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39 minutes ago, Frobby said:
The truth is, often the most meaningful work isn’t exciting to watch, and gets very little attention. Let’s say Matt Blood hires 5-10 minor league coaches who understand the front office’s vision, are on the same page, and know how to implement it effectively. That could have huge consequences for the long term success of the franchise, but we’re never going to know it. Let’s say Koby Perez hires 3-4 really plugged in scouts to help him beef up the Dominican operation, or hires a guy who oversees the construction of a first class training facility. Let’s say Sig Mejdal hires some 23 year old kid who’s a really brilliant analyst who comes up with new information that helps us gain an edge.
Most of those things are more important than who we pick up off waivers to replace the guy who holds the 40th spot on our roster. But it’s the latter we’ll be discussing because we don’t have much information about the other things.I agree. Elias has already made alot of good moves that won't register high on the Richter scale. I know the Orioles won't be big players in the FA market. But I'm excited to see what international moves he makes and how he assembles the 2020 squad and what personal touches of his own he puts on the franchise.
I like naming Holt as pitching director. I am very excited to see what is done this winter.
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On 10/31/2019 at 10:45 PM, atomic said:
I doubt there will be anything to get excited about.
This will be Mike Elias first full offseason with the Orioles. Just seeing how he approaches it will be interesting.
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Is Puig an option again ...Will Elias do it?
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Anything to get Dwight Smith out of the OF. Constantly misjudges the ball and isn't hitting enough to justify him being in the lineup.