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Maybe Buck should preach that same messages to guys at the major league level.
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How can they carry Pedro AND Valencia? Is Davis going to be out awhile?
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7 hours ago, section18 said:
I've been in favor of signing Cashner from the beginning and after hearing three interviews with him tonight I think our fans will like him a lot. Very positive guy and for him to fly right in today and then have to go back home on Sunday and turn around and come right back is special. H e could have waited until Sunday to fly in and taken his time but didn't. I like him a lot.
It is interesting in his interview he mentioned "he liked was Brady was building here". Never mentioned Duquette.
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I don't think it was either Garcia or Cashner. They could have handled both on the payroll. They need guys that can take the mound. Garcia may not be able to do that much.
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27 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
Nothing guarantees it, but there sure is a positive relationship between the two.
And that' why I brought up Gausman. Decent K rate but stunk last year.
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23 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:
What the heck does Gausman have to with this?
About as much as Gallardo does with Cashner. But whatever.
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22 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
Since win is stuff defined solely as velocity?
Didn't say it was. But I thought that was obvious. Since when does K/9 guarantee success?
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31 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:
What difference does it make if your K rate is the same.
That the stuff is there? Gallardo obviously had diminished stuff before the Orioles signed him. So, since Gausman had almost 9k/9, you throw out he stunk last year?
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27 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
While I stated a couple days ago that velocity was important so are actual results.
All I was saying is the stuff is there. And his results were good last year. That doesn't matter because he wasn't striking guys out? Does his 87mph exit velocity mean anything?
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24 minutes ago, Enjoy Terror said:
The stats Yovanni Gallardo had in 2015 are the same stats Cashner had in 2017. Like... identical.
Did Gallardos fastball average 93mph?
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The Orioles still have $35m to possibly work with. What if they signed Lynn and Cobb? Be a shocker, but it hasn't been a typical off-season.
I'd still rather trade a Brach or Givens for McHugh. Maybe sign one of Cobb/Lynn and trade for Corbin?
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2 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:
Odd, Maddux in his prime worked in the 90's. The only two years I have velocity data for, in which his ERA+ was under 100, he was in the upper 80's.
There exists a point where command and movement do not compensate for a lack of velocity. For one pitcher that point might be 93 MPH, for another 87.
I'm not saying that velocity is all important but it does have to be present to some degree. (knuckleball of course excluded)
And Greinke still works in the 90's. He's showing no signs of regression. I doubt his velocity will suddenly fall off the charts. I think he will be effective at a high level for 3 or 4 years and be pretty solid for 2 or 3 years after that, if he decides to keep playing.
Pitchers can adjust. Look at CC Sabathia.
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22 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
A lot of the time it is the guys that don't rely on velocity that are most damaged by a loss of velocity.
Glavine and Maddux worked out. Greinke is in that category imo.
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See Miami. Ownership instantly started trading the money makers. A team without alot of commited salary obligations is attractive to a potential buyer. Not only do you not have alot of salary, it gives a potential owner more of a clean slate to work with.
A new owner would probably want his own GM and manager. Maybe Pete is setting things up for a sale.
Wishful thinking probably
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2 hours ago, Il BuonO said:
Greinke knows how to pitch so I wouldn’t rule out there being positive value at the end of the deal. But I think he’s an exception to the rule that players rapidly decline with age. There will be decline but his ability to adjust his arsenal based on his ability is impressive.
He doesn't rely on velocity. He knows how to pitch. He's like Greg Maddux, and I firmly believe Greinke can and will be successful late into his 30's. If the Orioles could get him for some marginal prospects I'd be all over it.
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Raphael Palmerio first stint with the Orioles. Matt Holliday with the Cards. Manny Ramirez with Boston. Nelson Cruz with the Mariners. Greg Maddux with the Braves. Jim Thome with the Phillies. Vlad Guerrero with the Angels...just to name a few.
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3 hours ago, dan-O said:
Trumbo also has lower exit velocity. These are our 4 and 5 hitters! Sheesh.
Poor contact does that. They still have power.
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I still hate the Red Sox more.
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15 minutes ago, eddie83 said:
I like Gary but smirking to Brach and Buck after a game like that is a bit much.
I don't mind him as much when we're winning. That's the nicest thing I can say haha. He's got a really good voice and is funny. But...he should be more of a national broadcaster. I will say, Palmer and Thorne are by far the best MASN has. I get just as aggravated at Hunter and Bordick for being such homers.
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11 hours ago, eddie83 said:
Gary Thorne smirking while talking to Buck after game. My lord Gary, wake up.
I really can't stand the man. Like the smirking when talking to Brach. I'm sure Brach was in a joking "how about them yankees" mood. I know Thorne isn't or shouldn't be a homer. But for God's sake, atleast remember your the Orioles announcer. We're not quite as thrilled or excited when the other team sticks a dagger in us.
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3 hours ago, Tryptamine said:
I'm at the point where I simply don't care anymore. Clemens, Bonds, etc should be in the HoF, put an asterisk if you want for known abusers. Keep doing what they're doing with the suspensions, but the current rule that lets a player come back from a suspension and then play in the regular season but not the playoffs is ridiculous. If you're so worried about the supposed cheater having an effect on the playoffs, then they shouldn't be back in the regular season either because I'm sure they're going to play in games that have an effect on who makes or misses the playoffs. Just really sick of people pretending like we have any idea when players started using enhancers, or how much the enhancers actually helped them, or that greenies are some how less cheating than steroids because our old timey baseball heroes couldn't possibly be as vile as Barry Bonds. It's all the same thing.
I agree. Bonds was a HOF either way. Lots of guys used that never got caught.
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1 hour ago, WEAVERMAN said:
Nonsense. A man gets bigger from 19 years old to 24 years old. In addition to his workout routine. He's innocent until proven otherwise.
Yeah, Arod got pretty big from 19-24 also. Obviously he never used during those years. And I never said Manny was guilty. I said I'd be leary of a long contract (meaning 10 years or more).
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18 minutes ago, weams said:
No Pet I Stool here. And live your life. I have no illusions about Cal's humanity.
I live my life just fine. I gave my opinion on Cal. That's all it was.
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31 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
My theory, if he did use for one year, is that their were side-effects that caused him to stop.
Of course I don't care if he used.
I don't care if any of them use really.
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Buck lays into Mountcastle during "reassignment to minor camp" and possible new position?
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I agree. He likes his guys.