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59 minutes ago, tntoriole said:
I disagree with your opinion. Cal was a follow the rules, obsessive personality type...just like Gehrig.
That's fine. I was born and raised in Aberdeen. Opinions of Cal aren't as wholesome as the picture painted. But whatever. I'll leave it at that.
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23 minutes ago, tntoriole said:
Yeah, just like Lou Gehrig needed them....to keep that streak of his going.
And as I said...the streak isn't my only reason for my opinion. Of course, playing 1B has less chances of getting hurt than a SS. Guess that doesn't matter though.
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1 hour ago, Fuzzball22 said:
How big of a surprise would it be if it came out that Cal was using Peds? If I had to guess gun to head I would say no but I would spend some time thinking about it.
I wouldn't have to think twice before saying yes to Cal using roids. He had a an MVP season sandwiched between multiple mediocre seasons. And PED would help him heal better and keep that streak going. Just my opinion.
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7 hours ago, Can_of_corn said:
Why would your mind jump to Davis?
I have a list of a half dozen guys off the top of my head I would suspect over an under-performing Davis.
I wouldn't be shocked if his teammate Nelson Cruz gets busted...Jose Altuve.
Maybe even Manny Machado...who knows.
And there's no place on this board for Gnat-i-tude.
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1 hour ago, wildbillhiccup said:
If I'm not mistaken wasn't it Cal AND Brady who didn't stay in team hotels?
I'm not sure. They are/were best friends. So it's very possible that was the case.
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24 minutes ago, RZNJ said:
I am saying that the Orioles could resort to benching Davis, which is not exactly treating him badly or unfairly. This would be embarassing for Davis but he's earned it. At some point, he may decide that the best thing is to take most of the money and spend time with his family.
I totall agree with you. I'm all for it.
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24 minutes ago, El Gordo said:
Things could get really bad. Remember Raffy and his ear plugs?
Fair point. Is Davis on his meds? I know he had a waiver again. Maybe he truly has issues focusing. Though his bat has obviously slowed. I don't know. Davis is an enigma.
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22 minutes ago, RZNJ said:
1. I know ML contracts are guaranteed and acknowledged that Davis is entitled to every penny.
2. You say the players association would never allow it. Gil Meche - Despite a guaranteed contract that called for a $12 million salary in 2011, Meche chose to walk away from the game on January 18 as he considered it unfair for the Royals to pay him millions if he would be out all year in the last year of his contract.[1]
As far as I know the players assication can't stop Davis from retiring and accepting a settlement.
3. Ryne Sandberg -
1992[edit]
On March 2, 1992, Sandberg became the highest paid player in baseball at the time, signing a $28.4 million ($49,526,583 today) four-year extension worth $7.1 million ($12,381,646 today) a season.[17] He earned a spot on the NL All-Star roster and an NL Silver Slugger Award at second base with a .304 batting average, 26 home runs, 100 runs, and 87 runs batted in.[citation needed]
1994[edit]
Sandberg, a notoriously slow early season starter, found himself struggling even more so than usual early in the 1994 season. With his average at a career low .238 and having recorded only fifty-three hits in fifty-seven games, Sandberg decided to step away from baseball and on June 13, 1994, he announced his retirement. In his book, Second to Home, Sandberg said,
“ The reason I retired is simple: I lost the desire that got me ready to play on an everyday basis for so many years. Without it, I didn't think I could perform at the same level I had in the past, and I didn't want to play at a level less than what was expected of me by my teammates, coaches, ownership, and most of all, myself.
Those guys left on their terms. What your suggesting is the Orioles try forcing Davis out. I don't disagree with your idea, just those examples are different circumstances.
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Why should Davis walk away from guaranteed money? Buck and Peter got their guy. I don't blame Chris Davis. It's like throwing away a winning lotto ticket.
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27 minutes ago, atomic said:
Eddie was more popular than Chris ever was. The press were the ones who hated Eddie the fans lived him. Eddie Eddie the fans would chant.
Yeah. It was all media generated. Cal was more of the pre-madonna. Not stating in team hotels...taking different flights etc.
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46 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:
Maybe he'd be more open to it if they benched him and played Mancini at 1B. Right now he couldn't beat out Trumbo or Alvarez for the DH job.
Yeah I tend to agree. I understand the philosophy of wanting to play him and see if he snaps out of it and all. But he's showing zero signs of that. Maybe tell him to take a minor league assignment to work on things or be benched. They're paying him to do nothing anyhow.
At this point, I want Manny, Jones, Trumbo, and Davis gone. I want Hays, Mullins, and Stewart in the OF. Mancini at 1B. And either Santander at DH or in the minors and Alvarez at DH.
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27 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:
I don't doubt it and I wasn't accusing you of anything. I loved Eddie, too.
I was ectatic when they traded for him in 96 or 97. Wow, I can't remember which year it was. I'm getting old haha.
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25 minutes ago, POR said:
Murray did not have a reputation for being a bad guy. His teammates and managers all talked about him as being a great guy. He was also extremely involved in the community and with charities. I don't understand your point at all.
I didn't say he was a bad guy. He had a bad reputation created by the media. I never said he was a bad guy. I don't understand why you can't see that and why you insist on making it seem as though I am.
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22 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:
I quoted you talking about Eddie. You said he had a reputation as a bad guy. There were two reasons for that reputation:
- He didn't like to talk to the press (which they took out on him)
- His skin color
Players and people who knew him personally didn't see him as a bad guy at all.
Again, I was responding to someone who brought up Eddie. Other than that, I wouldn't even had brought him up. I loved Eddie
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23 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:
Eddie wasn't bad when he was run out of town. All I'm saying is that you shouldn't compare Davis and Eddie. One is a bad white player who won't be run out of town, the other was a good black player who was run out of town. So, they shouldn't be compared unless you want race brought into the discussion.
I didn't even bring up Eddie. Nor race.
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And I'm also not saying Murray didn't receive poor treatmet based on his race. That's very true. All I'm saying is that Chris Davis doesn't get a pass because he's white. It's a different type of fan now.
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25 minutes ago, POR said:
Murray had a reputation as a bad guy? Where is this coming from? He was a quiet guy who didn't like talking to the press. That makes him a bad guy?
I didn't say he was a bad guy. I said he had that reputation. And as you stated, that was media generated. I never once said he was a bad guy.
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21 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:
Someone compared Davis and Eddie. I was bringing up one of the differences. Ubaldo has nothing to do with it.
Ubaldo does have something to do with it. My point is...Baltimore fans of today won't boo a player out of town because they are bad. What has nothing to do with it is race.
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22 minutes ago, mdbdotcom said:
Davis is white. If you never sat along the first-base line in Memorial Stadium you have no idea what Eddie had to put up with. Plenty of racist O's fans gave Frank a hard time, too, when he became manager (once couple I know refused to use their season tickets the entire time Frank was the manager). Racist behavior wasn't exclusive to Baltimore, I'm sure. But you just can't compare how Davis and Eddie are treated by fans without bringing up the obvious factor of skin color.
Ubaldo wasn't white. He wasn't booed out of town. Race had nothing to do with why Davis isn't booed. Give me a break.
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22 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
He's not as likeable to me now as he was a few years ago.
Well yeah...Chris Davis the player. Most saw this as a bad contract. It turned out even worse than I expected. I figured a few 30 HR seasons. I didn't expect the fall off a cliff.
I don't blame or hate Davis. Buck and Peter got their guy
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22 minutes ago, Can_of_corn said:
Happened to Murray.
And Murray was still good at the time.
True. But those were more die-hard fans in a different era. Most fans now are casual and really don't care as much imo.
And Murray had the reputation as a bad guy. Davis is perceived Mich differently. He comes across as a very likeable g iy. Where Murray didn't.
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It's not like Baltimore fans are like NY or Bos fans. They may dislike Davis the player, but Baltimore fan's will never turn on Davis to a point he's run out of town.
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It's time to just let it go. Was Sosa, McGwire, and Bonds cheaters? Yes. Do I care anymore? No. And one reason I don't is because those 3 get murdered by the media and obvious users like David Ortiz get celebrated and made out to be a hero. It is what it is.
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23 minutes ago, tntoriole said:
Old dogs, new tricks versus new dogs, old tricks. Hard to tell 30 year old big league veteran millionaires much. 21 year old that wants to make it...different audience, differently message. Buck would, on some level, enjoy being a minor league development person.
I don't disagree with Bucks advice to Mountcastle, I just wish he'd hold his veterans more accountable. I know he respects them, but as you said they are making millions to perform at a certain level.
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Yeah. I personally don't have any groundbreaking evidence to support my opinion about Ripken. He was my favorite Oriole growing up. But I have my doubts he could play as physical a position he played at the intensity he played it without a little boost to help him feel better a little faster. Maybe 91 was just a year it all clicked for a 30 year old. His age 35 season was pretty good too.