Brooks The Great
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FREE NORBY
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1 hour ago, Roll Tide said:
Cowser played in 5 straight after call up, give 5-6 days off, played in 10 straight, 2 days off, 4 straight , a day off, 2 straight, 1 day off, 1 game and then demoted. I didn’t look back to see how many of the days off that the team didn’t play. To say he didn’t get a chance is just wrong.
https://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/hittinglogs.php?p=cowseco01&y=2023
"Played in 10 straight" and "played in 5 straight" includes games he came off the bench. The most games he started in a row after his callup was a whopping 4. That is NOT playing every day.
Let me clarify right now, being an every day starter means starting every day. Not getting platooned and coming off the bench. My fault for not being more clear that I expected Cowser to get a chance to start every day.
The team also came out of the All Star Break with Cowser being benched, which was preposterous for a prospect of his ability and pedigree. He only got into games following the All Star break, and a few starts, because Cedric Mullins got hurt. That's when the insane infatuation with Aaron Hicks started after Elias signed him. Hicks went on to reward Elias' love of dumpster diving with an absurdly lucky BABIP and terrible defense. And Cowser got screwed over as a result.
I watched all those games. The way Elias and Hyde handled Cowser was awful.
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4 hours ago, ShoelesJoe said:
Hays was 0-2 on Wednesday, and is 1-28 in April with 1BB and 6Ks. In his last 81 games and 265 AB he's at .204 / .268 / .332. People are asking if Hays is the new Ryan McKenna, but I don't know if McKenna was ever this bad at the plate for that amount of time.
Not even a platinum glove is worth that kind of abysmal production at the plate.
Elias should capitalize on Hays' option and send him to Norfolk to play every day. If there's an injury to one of the OF's on the major league roster or he gets into a groove at the plate, call him back up. Give Stowers an opportunity - even just as a sparingly-used 4th OF - to reward him for multiple seasons of good production in the minors.
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22 minutes ago, Roll Tide said:
I don’t think we need to talk in absolutes here. It’s possible he’s just not ready. Look at Cowser last year compared to this season.
Cowser never had the chance to play every day. It wasn't a similar situation to Holliday's callup outside of poor initial results. Holliday is being given a long leash to struggle and try to figure things out. Cowser had no such opportunity last season. Elias and Hyde were too enamored with Aaron Hicks.
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Not concerned whatsoever. This is a lineup with several guys who are patient, especially Adley and Cowser. Going back to last season after Mountcastle came back from vertigo, he's now a much more patient hitter than he ever was before in his career. He used to be a pure hacker, like Austin Hays is. Mountcastle's improved approach and so many good, young, dangerous hitters like Gunnar, Cowser, and Westburg is going to lead to more walks.
I'm not a big O'Hearn fan because he's blocking Kjerstad, but he's a good hitter with a very good approach. Santander has also been slumping really badly. When he's seeing the ball well, he has a lot of at bats where he sees a lot of pitches and takes an occasional walk. Right now, he's an automatic out, but that won't last too much longer. Mullins draws walks when he's hitting well, which he is at the moment.
The Orioles faced a decent amount of good pitching over the first few series. That's also changing now. And it's a small sample size. The walks will definitely increase significantly. Too many good, patient hitters in this lineup.
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Hyde needs to get Gunnar out of the leadoff spot. Mullins against RHP or Cowser are better options until Holliday gets adjusted. Westburg also shouldn't be hitting 8th, as others have mentioned. And having a platoon hitter in your cleanup spot is something I'll never agree with. Hyde is awful at writing out lineups.
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24 minutes ago, ChuckS said:
Yes, he said those things as well.
He also said he thought he was pressing and that he’d like to see him get his first hit out of the way so he can “take a deep breath” and relax.
Once the first hit comes, it really will take so much pressure off of him.
I'm not worried about Jackson whatsoever, and it's not surprising whatsoever that he's started off scuffling. The adjustment from AAA to MLB for the first time is massive. Very few hitters come out of the gates hot. And the ones that do, many of them get humbled not long afterwards. Just last year, Casey Schmitt of the Giants comes to mind. He hit a home run in his first game (maybe even first at bat, can't quite remember), and was on fire his first couple weeks. Then he went ice cold, was demoted back to the minors, and still hasn't made it back to the majors.
It's just frustrating that Hyde would put more pressure on Holliday by hitting the most ice cold player on the team in front of him. Hyde consistently writes bad lineups. I've always called him out for it for years, and he still does it. But hopefully as the rest of the stud prospects like Kjerstad and Mayo come up, Hyde will have less decisions with the lineup to make outside of occasionally resting guys since most/all of the lineup won't need to be platooned. Hyde will also make less mistakes since inferior players like Frazier, McKenna, Mateo, Urias, Hays and O'Hearn will be benched or completely off the roster (obviously Frazier and McKenna are already gone, but they are examples of players that Hyde favored too much).
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Gunnar's a #3 hitter. Mullins should lead off against righties for now. Cowser is also a better leadoff option, but he's so scorching hot right now, #2-#5 is better for him.
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3 minutes ago, RZNJ said:
Hays can show that he is worthy against LHP. That’s not burying him. We shouldn’t hurt the team in order to get one guy going who shows no positive signs.
Agreed. This team has already had 3 days off, there's absolutely no need to be "resting" Mountcastle. Mountcastle is working counts way better than Hays, including against RHP. This is Hyde showing favoritism to vets yet again. He should show favoritism to winning games.
The bottom of the lineup is doing no favors for Holliday, who is going to need to get acclimated to MLB pitching like every other good rookie. He probably gets benched tomorrow against Hall, so putting two black holes like Hays and McCann around him isn't ideal.
The way baseball works, I'm sure Hays goes 3-3 today. But the process behind putting together this lineup isn't good.
You know Hyde is going to be forcing Mateo and most likely Urias in there tomorrow, with Hays a 100% certainty to start again. With Cowser and Holliday most likely getting benched. I think it's bad lineup optimization when we should be in a position to start our most talented players every game outside of rest for Adley. Hyde refuses to do it.
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6 minutes ago, ThisIsBirdland said:
Agreed on Westburg over Mayo. Could Westburg lock down 3B this year much like Gunnar locked down SS last year? Mayo will have a place on the team later this year and moving forward, but Westburg may make the 3B defense discussion moot if his arm and range play well enough over there. They certainly look like they're going to give him the opportunity to do so.
I don't think they're moving off of O'Hearn this year. Kjerstad looks great and is a big part of the future, but I don't think Hyde will want to take out the veteran bat, especially given the quality at-bats O'Hearn has been putting up thus far this year.
If it plays out like this I could see Kjerstad and Mayo ultimately replacing Santander and O'Hearn's roles in 2025, or earlier if there's an injury. Mayo comes up sometime this summer to get his bat in the lineup, and Kjerstad comes up when rosters expand.
I'll agree to disagree on O'Hearn. There's nothing that will convince me that he's worth keeping Kjerstad blocked. You shouldn't block a bat like Kjerstad's with a platoon hitter.
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10 minutes ago, Bemorewins said:
Right now the way things are set up and project going forward into the foreseeable future, Westburg's defensive value is in his ability to play 3B since there will be very few opportunities to play 2B or SS. Gunnar and Holliday will be every day players 150+ per season so they won't require much filling in for barring injury.
Agreed, ultimately his 3B defense and good bat will make Westburg the everyday 3B the rest of this season and into the future. But the fact he can play an excellent 2B and passable SS are still important, because injuries happen. His defensive versatility makes him quite valuable to any team.
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19 hours ago, Just Regular said:
Last Friday afternoon Jake Rill filed a report Hays was battling an illness. Obviously he's posted some since then, but I can't say I didn't wonder if some of that was a seed being planted. If Cowser continues to thrive in the coming weeks, Hays will be the most sensitive #RisingTide scenario the organization has to manage with a very fine player.
Mayo over Westburg (less career tenure), and/or Kjerstad over O'Hearn (not a long-term Oriole) will be lighter lifts in the clubhouse if/when they occur.
Mayo's not going to replace Westburg this season. Westburg is too valuable as a defender at multiple IF positions, and he's going to show everyone that he's a quality hitter as well.
Mayo may have to be broken in gradually at the DH spot against LHP whenever he's called up. Other than that, injuries will unfortunately be his quickest path to playing time.
I do agree that O'Hearn gets replaced by Kjerstad. O'Hearn is a solid hitter, but Kjerstad is a future potential All Star/Silver Slugger. Need to make that change there at some point this season. I'm not a fan whatsoever of platooning your #4/#5 hitter - that's just not good baseball if you have better options, which this team does. I think Holliday, Cowser, and Westburg will eventually move O'Hearn down the lineup, but either way, Kjerstad is going to be the better bat, and it doesn't make sense to commit to a 30-year old platoon hitter with no defensive value over Kjerstad.
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1 hour ago, Winter said:
Hays is going to make a decent 4th OFer
Hays in the McKenna role from last year is a reflection of the serious talent this team already has, with more premium talent on the way.
Hays is a good dude and I appreciate his career as an Oriole, but he, Urias, and Mateo need to be Wally Pipped. Cowser is an everyday player, even against lefties.
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2 hours ago, RZNJ said:
Westburg beginning to become a nugget.
He's always been one. He just never got a fair shot at playing time until this season. Love Westburg, and he's going to help us a win a hell of a lot of games.
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Just now, Remember The Alomar said:
I realize I'm falling into the dumb small-sample size fallacy, but could it be as simple as them wanting him to see if he could hit LHP then he then (in only five games) put up a 1.375 OPS?
Not waiting another 5 days to accrue extra service time is a very un-Elias move. Makes me think there's an injury which led to the move.
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6 minutes ago, forphase1 said:
Glad to have been proven wrong. But honestly this makes me question the decision to not have him on the roster for opening day. Did he REALLY get that much better at 2nd base or against LHP in the past 2 weeks to justify this now? Again, VERY glad he is coming up, but it's also a bit head scratching when looking at it overall.
Agreed. Hopefully Westburg isn't hurt, it was odd that Mateo pinch hit (technically replaced him in the field) for him today instead of Westburg. At the time, I just chalked it up as yet another bad Hyde lineup/bench decision.
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They went from from the best and most unique celebration - the home run chain - to the most lame celebration in the handlebars. It's embarrassing. Hope the team gets rid of it soon.
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On 4/2/2024 at 11:05 AM, Frobby said:
Spare me the drama over 2022. The guy was promoted to AAA in June and had 228 PA there. It’s hardly a travesty that he wasn’t promoted to the majors that season.
As to last year, I would have liked to see him promoted sooner, but “travesty” is a bit much.
Completely disagree. Westburg was easily the organization's best option at 2B starting in July of 22, and Odor was awful the entire season. The team was in playoff contention until the final week - Westburg could have easily made a difference in the team potentially making the playoffs.
The way Elias handled Odor in 2022 and Frazier last season was terrible. It was losing baseball roster management with both of those guys from the time those contracts were signed until the final day of the season, when both should have been benched/released much sooner.
Cowser is being handled in the same irresponsible manner in favor of inferior vets. Norby is also being wasted in Norfolk when he could be helping the major league team right now. Play your most talented players available.
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Keep Cowser and Kjerstad, they're both going to be so good for us for several years. Basallo is untouchable.
Urias could possibly net a middling reliever or low minors pitching prospect. Move him for whatever you can, he's completely expendable with Holliday/Mayo coming and Norby major league ready (even though Norby might wind up playing more DH and RF for the O's than 2B).
O'Hearn and Mateo are worthless. McKenna and Vavra even more worthless - no one even bothered to claim McKenna on waivers. The time to move O'Hearn and Mateo would have been during the offseason or spring training as spare parts in a bigger trade.
Hays I'd move at the trade deadline for really anything of value. Time to move on and get more playing time for Cowser and Kjerstad.
Norby has clear trade value. Move him for value any time you can, but in the meantime, he should be helping the Orioles RIGHT NOW at DH, RF, and 2B. The Kemp signing was a pathetic joke.
Hopefully Mountcastle takes another step forward this season and maintains his plate discipline gains from last season. So far, so good. He'd have significant trade value in the offseason if so, and I'd move him for MLB-ready pitching or a prospect package.
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5 minutes ago, Mooreisbetter27 said:
Not our night. And doubt we get tomorrow in.
Rain out would be a good thing with Ragans on the mound and Hyde rolling out Mateo at 2B against lefties.
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I love Westburg, and it's a travesty that he was screwed over each of the last two seasons by Elias and Hyde and not given a chance at everyday playing time when he's been our best 2B option both seasons (starting in the summer of 2022).
I'm glad that he's (hopefully) finally going to get a chance to play everyday to show what he can do. He never got consistent playing time last season due to Elias and Hyde's nonsensical commitment to platooning with bad players and not cutting bait with the sunk cost of Adam Frazier's awful contract. Almost all good hitters need regular playing time to get into a rhythm and reach their hot streaks, especially rookies.
Gunnar and Adley both struggled immensely for one or two months straight early in their careers and were given the opportunity to learn and adjust by playing every day. Westburg and Colton Cowser haven't been afforded that same opportunity, but I hope they both get their chances - right now for Westburg, soon for Cowser.
The fact Westburg has very good opposite field power makes him particularly valuable to this team in Oriole Park. Can't wait for Holliday and Mayo to get promoted so we can stop giving at bats to guys like Mateo, Kemp, O'Hearn, and even Urias.
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49 minutes ago, Aristotelian said:
If you want Mateo on the bench, it should be Urias 3B/Westburg 2B/Adley DH. I agree, I would prefer Norby to Kemp but don't really see a role for either.
Not sure how you can say there's no role for Norby when you're pointing out the configuration that would much less frequently apply to Norby, which is Adley DHing against lefties. Norby serving as the primary DH against LHP (with Adley at C) would be an important role and much more frequent, and I think everyone is going to see this team's weakness there exposed until Holliday is promoted or until Cowser finally gets more playing time (I'd prefer Cowser DHing against LHP to Mateo ever starting as well).
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5 hours ago, Aristotelian said:
You would rather have Norby than Adley today or Westburg in Game 1?
It's not good that I have to explain this, but I will.
Yes, I would have rather had Norby at DH in Game 1, BUT with Westburg at 2B. As I would every game against LHP that Adley doesn't DH. So I wouldn't be platooning Mateo whatsoever - he should strictly be a pinch runner and late game defensive replacement in CF and at 2B/SS. And a terrible player like Tony Kemp wouldn't be on this team.
In games where Adley DH's, I'd put Norby at 2B and Westburg at 3B, or I'd have Norby on the bench where he would be a much better pinch-hitting option for Mateo for the rare games Mateo would/could start at 2B.
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11 minutes ago, Orioles0615 said:
This is why some people wanted JD Martinez
More practically, this is why it was a mistake not to bring Connor Norby north with the major league team to take most of the DH at bats against LHP.
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Austin Hays 2024
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I really doubt there will ever be a situation to have Norby playing "more regularly" than now. Once Mayo and Kjerstad are up, it would take multiple injuries before Norby would ever see regular at bats. Even now, it would be a platoon situation. Norby is the best candidate to fill Hays' roster spot. But Elias has an absurd infatuation with Ryan McKenna (the guy Elias loves even though no one baseball claimed him for the bare minimum off waivers), so there's a good chance McKenna will be back up.