Osornot
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9 minutes ago, Tony-OH said:
It's all good Roy.
The game thread emotional posts stay in the game thread. We don't talk about the game thread outside of the game thread!
Despite both passing, ScOtt (121349) and Weams (115271) are still 1 and 2 in the amount of posts.
Saying that, this post count is not all-time. I can't remember but I know we had a reset of post counts in one changeup over years ago and lost a bunch when we purged some posts when the board was on a different server and was too big to move to a new server.
Sports Guy took a few years off from this board (self-imposed) and is still #5 with 64451 posts.
From what I see Roy, you have the 10th most content (posts) with your 32228 posts. Impressive.
https://forum.orioleshangout.com/topmembers/?filter=member_posts@Frobby dwarfs us all in reputation points awarded by other members.
https://forum.orioleshangout.com/topmembers/?filter=pp_reputation_points
Frobby pays better...
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I had the chance to sit across the negotiating and lunch/dinner table a few times with Peter in the 1990's. Two things I most remember - when he talked about how hell bent he was in wanting the buy the O's. He wanted no more out-of-towners. Second, he told me that one thing to do to stop hangovers is to quit smoking - he swore he never had a hangover once he quit. Very loyal man
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I think Nevin, Wong or Maton see OD.
McKenna probably has the best chance IF they don't find anyone better - opt-out or waiver.
Maybe we get another Super April with Mateo (tongue firmly planted)?
Holliday comes up soon if he starts hot in AAA.
Question - When can the O's select Holliday's contract? Before OD?
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I think Elias's explanation had merit.
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17 hours ago, doccat said:
If he was going to add another starter by trade or free agency, the price just shot through the roof with today’s news…
He should have made the move prior to today if he’s known about these injuries for a while…
I know if I’m an agent or GM and I get a call from Elias my asking price is WAY higher today than it was 24 hours ago
Actually, I thought he made the right move if he knew about Bradish before closing Burnes. It may have cost more. As far as free agents I don't believe it would make much difference $$ now.
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I said yes before June 1 although I know I am wrong. Just not ready for that slap in the face yet...
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1 hour ago, Frobby said:
Doesn’t strike me as unusual to keep a lid on a big corporate deal until the deal’s done.
Hangout Park
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1 hour ago, Frobby said:
You have to admit, the O’s have pulled a lot of rabbits out of their hats the last two years in the bullpen, so we’ll see what unexpected developments emerge in 2024.
And, this has made me a little complacent assuming the last two years can be repeated by sticking with the same process. Luckily, they don't feel that way or... maybe there is a secret sauce (?)
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If I was the new owner I would ask for it to be "completed" / announced as soon as possible after the sale is announced.
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This is better than waiting for the trade deadline... may have been forced to give up the same package for much less time with Burnes- or not be able to do anything and possibly cringe in the playoffs again
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A trade a team wanting a title makes.
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The only good I see from all of this is that it replaced the Cease on the top of my feed. As far as financials I tend to believe that it is all smoke and mirrors with weaving octopus arms. Most likely, sports franchise value is in the branding value and rich guys showing their "size" to their rich guy friends at the country club. Plus, there are many other things but I digress.
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3 hours ago, Moose Milligan said:
They get to stand at the finish line and pick the winners.
Anyway, I saw this news and couldn't help but think of Sam Kinison. I know he's not everyone's cup of tea and if he's not for you, I feel bad for you.
This clip is obviously NSFW and if the mods deem that it needs to be taken down, well, so be it. But man, it's funny cause it's true. From 1984 and it's still hilarious.
sad maybe but, to this day I talk about leaving them at home bit.
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1 hour ago, bpilktree said:
What other areas of need do we have though. I think it is top of rotation starter then few rings down maybe one other right hand pitcher like Braiser. The next issues is probably to figure out what to do with few veterans to get young guys at bats.
I agree that we need to get the young guys bats... my recommendation is based on the fact that we could be empty-handed for both, and anyone else worth obtaining may not be moved. I'd pay Montgomery, trade for a Bieber or similar (depends on what the staff sees), keep looking at the BP. I would also be looking at who is available for OF.
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I would sign one of the non-QO FA SP's and move on. Use some of the other pieces for other areas of need.
Montgomery or Snell takes $20-25M/yr for the shortest amount of time. (maybe a Sonny Gray-type contract (3 years, 75M)?). Is it risky? Overpay? Probably, but our payroll is so ridiculously low is it worth the increased chance to go further in the playoffs? What about the extra revenue a WS-caliber team that is set up to have a better chance?
We have enough prospects to bolster other areas. And, IMO, if it is not pitching we would get a much better return trading prospects for more established, i.e., more enticing for rebuilding
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My only concern (not great) will be if we get hit heavy with injuries and the "next up" is a big drop-off. I understand that Hays, Ced, etc. are a year older but Adley, Gunnar, et al. are a year more experienced.
I have many more "hopes" than "concerns".
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Happy New Year!
Great tribute for great people!
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2 hours ago, Bahama O's Fan said:
This forum is by far, the most informative of anything about the O's out there. Tony and the other admins, as well as the regular users are just fantastic with news and rumors. I only read Roch to find out what the "official" message that the front office wants put out there is.
I just realized that this is exactly what I do! Thanks!
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Prayers.
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no here fwiw
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All the litigants probably spent more $$ on legal fees than any decision made (not based on any factual knowledge just cynicism).
Frobby - I apologize that I have never had the patience, let alone expertise, to read through all of this. Was there any breach of the original contract?
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20+ years ago...
Compare that to our GM at the time... who used a chisel to carve notes out of a rock.
Fantastic... but does remind me of what this franchise had been. Half the battle is won. A change of ownership and philosophy would do wonders (duh). Heck, a change of ownership would be good for the fans - we would never have to suffer under the "Angelos" weight.
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Nice contract. Good man. That works
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3 hours ago, Tony-OH said:
Nothing wrong with the young man wanting to still be a starter, afterall, the big money is about being a starting pitcher.
He's got the stuff to compete as a starter for sure, but his health, command record, and ability to get a ground ball continues to scream out reliever.
Would be the worse thing in the world to have him stretch out as a starter once again this spring? Probably not, but I still think his best role at the big league level will be as a high leverage reliever. He could very well be the closer next year at some point.
This. If he could be a high leverage with closer potential that would be huge - we need as close to a shutdown bullpen as possible. Spending tens of millions on SP is fine (and recommended) but when a SP gets through their 5-6 innings then what...
I'm not proud, but not embarrassed either...I just found out...
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Roy, there is no such thing as "whiny" when you are that passionate about your team.