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https://www.orioleshangout.com/2020/10/20/15-2020-prospect-coby-mayo-3b/

Kremer looks to be the centerpiece of the deal. I said that basically since year one.

In my defense, Elias gave him up for nothing and he had way more information on him than me. Elias choose Dwight Smith Jr. over him.

The only ting pipeline is useful for for me is to gauges when players "graduate" from rookie eligibility and they graduated him. So I'm going to graduate him as well as he really was on the roster all year this year although with his usual DL time.

I think Hall is a similar prospect as Vavra overall and maybe with a minor league season this year he would be ahead of him. There is just a lot of unknowns with the new guys including guys like Vavra that came over in trade. I have concerns over the K rate of Hall with such a little amount of power. Hall slashed a pedestrian .286/.374/.392/.766 against right handers with a 95-32 K-BB ratio in 412 PAs in 2019. Vavra slashed .340/.429/.526/.955 with a 44-50 K-BB ratio in 352 PAs against righties in 2019. Vavra might be a platoon guy since he didn't hit lefties well, but most pitchers are still right-handed so I think Vavra gets the nod from me for now because I think the bat may play a little better at the upper levels. Either way, they both are most likely 45 players in my mind but both have time to improve.

Yep, that's a cut and paste error. I'll get that fixed, thanks.

Spin rate mostly. I think Elias and company put a lo of faith into spin rate though I'm sure they have others metrics they use for pitchers.

I don't know if it shows a flaw in the system, but it does show they have the upside of a regular everyday player or starter and yes, with the limited amount we know about them professionally, their upside rates them higher than guys I see as having more risk or less ceiling. I will almost always take a guy with a chance to be 50 before I started going with guys I think will end up 45s or 40s.

I think Akin's floor is higher, but Lowther has a better chance to stick as a starter. I was a believer after his Bowie year and still think he will overcome his less than sparkling metrics because his deception helps his stuff play up.

I don't believe Harvey is eligible. I think he has too much time on the 25-man roster. MLB Pipeline removed him as well. I will say if he was eligible, he would be coming up soon, but would not be above the guys listed so far.

That was Zimmerman.

I heard it had nothing to do with injury or health. It was a decision made by Elias. I don't know whether it means the team doesn't think that highly of him or not, but it hurt not getting a look and certainly did not help his development sitting at home while guys like David Hess, Rob Zastryzny or Ty Black got innings in camp. I realize there were concerns about waivers and if guys got hurt, but the team had 16 spots open to start the camp. You would think if Elias thought highly of Lowther he would have been a priority add in order to get him as many triple-A type innings as possible. Again, I do not know why he was not included until late in camp but from what I heard it did not seem to be about injury or health. Saying that, I know Elias preferred Akin over Lowther after 2019 because I think Akins pitch metrics are better.

I think it all depends on how much his deception plays up. He throws a little harder than Milone and his release point and extension on his release helps it play up as well. I like him, but was disappointed that Elias didn't have him at the auxiliary camp.

Who are the #15 and #16 Prospects?

https://www.orioleshangout.com/2020/10/19/14-2020-prospect-hudson-haskin-cf/

Rank Name Current Grade Future Grade Ceiling Grade 13 Terrin Vavra 35 45 50

Unless his stroke changed (which it could have), he was not going hit for much power. Who knows nowadays. Everyone seems to hit for power with the major league super balls.

I'd like to see the plate discipline improve with his lack of power, but saying that, I think he's a got a chance to stick at 2B.

Just to clarify, I said they could have been 1st round values had they completed their senior years. They reportedly have 1st round tools.

Certainly could be. Although publicly they've stated they have no intention of selling the team, every other team had the same COVID restrictions and suffered the same losses. If they are now making coaching decisions based off a money (individual coaching salaries rarely go over $200k a year), it certainly has to be under consideration that the team is being dismantled to the bare bones for potential sale. I don't know one way or the other, but I do think we'll know more by how they treat Iglesias and their arbitration eligible players.

I would say the fact that the Orioles have not already announced that they have exercised their option on Jose Iglesias is a bit of a concern. With no other every day SS ready from within the system, if the Orioles don't exercise Iglesias' option means they are in total tear it down financially mode and bringing in anyone won't happen.

Who is the #13 and#14 prospects?

Unfortunately I was really busy this morning and forgot to upload the profile. I will get it on this evening but wanted to at least announced the prospects to keep us on schedule. http://www.orioleshangout.com/2020/10/19/12-2020-prospect-yusniel-diaz-rf/

Unfortunately I was really busy this morning and forgot to upload the profile. I will get it on this evening but wanted to at least announced the prospects to keep us on schedule. http://www.orioleshangout.com/2020/10/19/11-2020-prospect-zac-lowther-lhp/