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Like I've said before, I don't buy that was really the reason the two coaches were let go either, but we will know for sure after we see how Elias handles his arbitration eligible players.

Let's put it this way. If the team is really making coaching decisions based off money, they are not in on a Korean free agent.

I think this is misnomer though. I could be wrong and haven't done the research, but that average is typically brought down by those awful starts where a pitch may not make it the 4th inning. Just doing quick analysis, John Means averaged 4.3 Innings a start if you just divide his innings by starts, but he pitched into the sixth inning in all five of his September starts when he was healthy and focused. So is he a 4 inning pitch or more of a guy that will get you at least into the 6th? Akin only got into the 6h one time in six starts and this was a problem in the minors for him as well. In 2019, he only pitched into the 6th inning 7 times in 25 starts against AAA hitters. He was frequently around 90 pitches in the 5th inning against AAA hitters. He was better in AA, but he's just a guy that gets into a lot of deep counts and doesn't seem to get many quick outs. Now can he be a 5th starter with his stuff and penchant for getting in pitch count trouble, probably, but he'll need to improve this aspect in order to be viable option as a starter in my opinion unless that staff has some real aces that will rest most of the bullpen on most of their starts..

He never got to the 5th inning in 4 of his 6 starts. That's a concern more than his one really bad start at the end of the year. It was part of his issue in the minors as well. It takes him a lot of pitches to get outs. He gets in a lot of deep counts.

Lowther was hurt a bit in my eyes by not getting an invite to camp until late and then not getting a lot of glowing reports due to his late inclusion. Honestly, they are 10a and 10b but I have statcast data on Akins pitches and none of Lowther so that swung it a little bit. If you picked Lowther you weren't wrong per se.

Cool, where did you find this?

When bullpens go back to their previous size, I'm not sure a pitcher who only good for 4-5 innings a start is going to remain a starter. I think you need guys who are going to get you 6 and hopefully into the 7th a decent amount of times. Sure, pitchers nowadays aren't expected to go much over 100 pitches, but unless MLB wants to keep the extended rosters, I think starters will need to give you more than what Akin gave in his limited time this year.

Yep, but I do like Kremer a little more than the next group though overall. Saying that, they are similar 50 ceiling pitchers.

He wasn't a high walk guy in the minors so I think this comes down a bit as he gets more comfortable in the majors. He nibbled a bit too much but as he gains confidence in the curveball and cutter I think we'll see those numbers come down.

If you see my response in the poll question I explained why this happened. Just a bit of a change of heart after I made the poll. Wasn't trying to mess with anyone honestly.

This will be announced on Monday!

https://www.orioleshangout.com/2020/10/16/10-2020-prospect-keegan-akin-lhp/

Everyone that picked Kremer/Lowther gets credit. Honestly, the more I looked over Akin's statcast info the more I'll give a chance that he can stick as a starter, assuming he can get his pitch counts down. Saying that, this is where not getting much info on Lowther hurt him a bit. I guess I just looked at as his late addition to the camp was a little bit of a strike against him as Elias didn't think enough of him to get in innings against good hitting competition. Plus there is still some concern that his stuff won't play at the major league level effectively, limited him to 5th starter status. Saying that, they were very, very close but at the last second I switched Akin and Lowther because I think Akin's floor is an impact multi inning reliever. I'm still a believer in Lowther a bit, but just need more information.

https://www.orioleshangout.com/2020/10/16/9-2020-prospect-dean-kremer-rhb/

Here's my thinking here. We don't have a ton of stuff to go on but his draft position and the amount of bonus he got along with his abbreviated junior year. This is one of those situations where if he comes through on his promise, he's an everyday SS or 3B. Apparently the tools are there and I'm going to give Elias and company the benefit of the doubt at this point.

I think Baumann would have had a chance to make his major league debut this year before the injury. If he doesn't make his major league debut next year I'd be shocked. I would not be surprised if he's not pushing for a rotation spot out of spring training.

It's not the ceiling here but the likelihood of reaching that ceiling. I choose to go with Hall over Baumann because of his extreme ceiling but think Baumann has a better chance of reaching that ceiling. Also remember I said I could have built a case for 5-7 to be in any order. Don't get too caught up in the pure numbers here.

Who are the #9 and #10 prospects?

https://www.orioleshangout.com/2020/10/15/8-2020-prospect-jordan-westburg-ss-3b/

https://www.orioleshangout.com/2020/10/15/7-2020-prospect-michael-baumann-rhp/

SG said, "if the Orioles are worried he is becomes a reliever, they should look to trade him this offseason." I think you are taking his comment out of context and suggesting he wants to move him. I don't think anyone should want to move Hall at this point, especially after a camp that it's hard to make any final judgements off of.

I think all SG is saying is IF the Orioles conclude that he will only be a reliever, they should move him before he loses value. I don't think that decision will be made for several more years because his stuff is so good.

At 20 years old in High-A: Glasnow: 1.74 ERA, 11.4 K/9, 4.1 BB/9, 5.4 H/9, 0.2 HR/9 Hall: 3.46 ERA, 12.9 K/9, 6.0 BB/9, 5.9 H/9, 0.3 HR/9 Not the worse comp when it comes to ages and statistics though Glasnow gets the edge in everything but K/9 rate and Hall got a lot of Ks with young hitters swinging at curveballs in the dirt and high fastballs. Glasnow did make a big jump the next year at 21 and unfortunately all we have is camp info on Hall but the info did not seem to indicate better command. Still, it could give us a little bit of of a timeline for Hall and the type of guy he could become.

Just to be clear, I never said the Orioles think anything about Hall. It is my opinion that there is some reliever risk currently. I have not concluded he is going to be a reliever yet either, hence why he's still #6.

I'll give you a hint, if I have no new reports on guys they are basically staying in the same order as last year, but with adjustments due to the inclusion of the new players that have come into the system via the draft or trade. The high school draft picks were the hardest to figure out where to drop them because they have nice ceilings but extreme risk profiles. Basically I just decided to put them ahead of guys I definitely think are Utility guys, 4th/5th outfielders, relievers or potential starter's that carry a lot of risk due to being far away. At the end of the day, they both got $1.5 million or higher signing bonuses which puts them as high 2nd round talents. The thing is, maybe they would have become 1st round talents if they had full senior years? Who knows? I know I liked the power I saw from Mayo and his arm at 3B is pretty special, but we don't know how the swing will hold up in the pros. He could be in the top ten or off the list next year depending on how he does against pro competition. As for Baumler, huge, huge unknown but he has a Zach Davies kind a of vibe to him from the reports of a kid who really knows how to pitch at a young age.